The Todal wrote:
"Green Gilbert" wrote in message
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The Todal wrote:

There are many medical conditions that one wouldn't want made public. You
wouldn't announce to a crowd of strangers that you have a weeping sore on
your penis,
I did once. I caught a dose and went to the STD clinic as it was known
then. I was given my magic number and asked by a doctor if I wouldn't
mind a couple of students sitting in for the exam'. Of course not, I never
do. If it helps them learn etc.

I was only 18 and in walked 9 students all female who were invited
by the doctor to examine my penis closely to diagnose the problem.

A friend of mine with a weeping sore on his penis went to a STD clinic,
feeling very uneasy about having to sit with all the promiscuous sluts when
he knew that he had been faithful to his wife for 20 years and his condition
was not actually an STD. He said it was actually quite nice at the clinic -
the young ladies were flirting with the men and plainly many of them had met
at the clinic on previous sessions.


Dunno what area you were in, but I think your mates winding you up.
The ones around her have separate men and women waiting rooms...


I think by being so prudish and straight-laced, I've missed out on all the
fun.

On Jul 23, 4:23 pm, "The Todal" wrote:
"Green Gilbert" wrote in message

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The Todal wrote:

There are many medical conditions that one wouldn't want made public. You
wouldn't announce to a crowd of strangers that you have a weeping sore on
your penis,

I did once. I caught a dose and went to the STD clinic as it was known
then. I was given my magic number and asked by a doctor if I wouldn't
mind a couple of students sitting in for the exam'. Of course not, I never
do. If it helps them learn etc.

I was only 18 and in walked 9 students all female who were invited
by the doctor to examine my penis closely to diagnose the problem.

A friend of mine with a weeping sore on his penis went to a STD clinic,
feeling very uneasy about having to sit with all the promiscuous sluts when
he knew that he had been faithful to his wife for 20 years and his condition
was not actually an STD. He said it was actually quite nice at the clinic -
the young ladies were flirting with the men and plainly many of them had met
at the clinic on previous sessions.

I think by being so prudish and straight-laced, I've missed out on all the
fun.

"promiscuous sluts"

Oh dear.

WM

Simon wrote:
The Todal wrote:
"Green Gilbert" wrote in message
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The Todal wrote:

There are many medical conditions that one wouldn't want made
public. You wouldn't announce to a crowd of strangers that you have
a weeping sore on your penis,
I did once. I caught a dose and went to the STD clinic as it was
known then. I was given my magic number and asked by a doctor if I
wouldn't
mind a couple of students sitting in for the exam'. Of course not, I
never do. If it helps them learn etc.

I was only 18 and in walked 9 students all female who were invited
by the doctor to examine my penis closely to diagnose the problem.

A friend of mine with a weeping sore on his penis went to a STD
clinic, feeling very uneasy about having to sit with all the
promiscuous sluts when he knew that he had been faithful to his wife
for 20 years and his condition was not actually an STD. He said it was
actually quite nice at the clinic - the young ladies were flirting
with the men and plainly many of them had met at the clinic on
previous sessions.


Dunno what area you were in, but I think your mates winding you up.
The ones around her have separate men and women waiting rooms...


I think by being so prudish and straight-laced, I've missed out on all
the fun.


LOL Reminds me that the old STD clinics were supposed to be anonymous
with everyone given a number when they went in.

It was usual to be greeted by several others in the waiting room by my
first name though. We all knew each other!

It was a good system though. I used to get checked out once a year
for piece of mind.

Gertcha wrote:

It was a good system though. I used to get checked out once a year
for piece of mind.

Did they ever find it?

"Webmanager_CritEst" wrote in message
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On Jul 23, 4:23 pm, "The Todal" wrote:
"Green Gilbert" wrote in message

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The Todal wrote:

There are many medical conditions that one wouldn't want made public.
You
wouldn't announce to a crowd of strangers that you have a weeping sore
on
your penis,

I did once. I caught a dose and went to the STD clinic as it was known
then. I was given my magic number and asked by a doctor if I wouldn't
mind a couple of students sitting in for the exam'. Of course not, I
never
do. If it helps them learn etc.

I was only 18 and in walked 9 students all female who were invited
by the doctor to examine my penis closely to diagnose the problem.

A friend of mine with a weeping sore on his penis went to a STD clinic,
feeling very uneasy about having to sit with all the promiscuous sluts
when
he knew that he had been faithful to his wife for 20 years and his
condition
was not actually an STD. He said it was actually quite nice at the
clinic -
the young ladies were flirting with the men and plainly many of them had
met
at the clinic on previous sessions.

I think by being so prudish and straight-laced, I've missed out on all
the
fun.

"promiscuous sluts"

Oh dear.

Oh dear indeed. I'm quoting my friend, a Christian with deeply held beliefs
about pre-marital chastity. He concedes it was probably good for him to have
to attend an STD clinic.

On Jul 23, 5:20 pm, "The Todal" wrote:
"Webmanager_CritEst" wrote in message

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On Jul 23, 4:23 pm, "The Todal" wrote:
"Green Gilbert" wrote in message

...

The Todal wrote:

There are many medical conditions that one wouldn't want made public.
You
wouldn't announce to a crowd of strangers that you have a weeping sore
on
your penis,

I did once. I caught a dose and went to the STD clinic as it was known
then. I was given my magic number and asked by a doctor if I wouldn't
mind a couple of students sitting in for the exam'. Of course not, I
never
do. If it helps them learn etc.

I was only 18 and in walked 9 students all female who were invited
by the doctor to examine my penis closely to diagnose the problem.

A friend of mine with a weeping sore on his penis went to a STD clinic,
feeling very uneasy about having to sit with all the promiscuous sluts
when
he knew that he had been faithful to his wife for 20 years and his
condition
was not actually an STD. He said it was actually quite nice at the
clinic -
the young ladies were flirting with the men and plainly many of them had
met
at the clinic on previous sessions.

I think by being so prudish and straight-laced, I've missed out on all
the
fun.

"promiscuous sluts"

Oh dear.

Oh dear indeed. I'm quoting my friend, a Christian with deeply held beliefs
about pre-marital chastity. He concedes it was probably good for him to have
to attend an STD clinic.

He is your friend

WM

The Todal wrote:
"Webmanager_CritEst" wrote in message
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On Jul 23, 4:23 pm, "The Todal" wrote:
"Green Gilbert" wrote in message

...

The Todal wrote:
There are many medical conditions that one wouldn't want made public.
You
wouldn't announce to a crowd of strangers that you have a weeping sore
on
your penis,
I did once. I caught a dose and went to the STD clinic as it was known
then. I was given my magic number and asked by a doctor if I wouldn't
mind a couple of students sitting in for the exam'. Of course not, I
never
do. If it helps them learn etc.
I was only 18 and in walked 9 students all female who were invited
by the doctor to examine my penis closely to diagnose the problem.
A friend of mine with a weeping sore on his penis went to a STD clinic,
feeling very uneasy about having to sit with all the promiscuous sluts
when
he knew that he had been faithful to his wife for 20 years and his
condition
was not actually an STD. He said it was actually quite nice at the
clinic -
the young ladies were flirting with the men and plainly many of them had
met
at the clinic on previous sessions.

I think by being so prudish and straight-laced, I've missed out on all
the
fun.
"promiscuous sluts"

Oh dear.

Oh dear indeed. I'm quoting my friend, a Christian with deeply held beliefs
about pre-marital chastity. He concedes it was probably good for him to have
to attend an STD clinic.



Yes Christians get the clap from toilet seats rather than shagging old
slags.

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:36:39 +0100, "The Todal"
wrote:

Do you not believe it better if the person could be open and honest
about his condition and receive help to prevent it causing harm? Or
maybe epileptics would be better off living a lie and pretending to
others that they don't have the condition. Living in constant denial
and maybe proving their normality by becoming bus drivers or airline
pilots rather than being helped to control their condition and live in
a way that is unlikely to present a danger to others?

It will never be possible for a paedophile to say "I'm proud to be a
paedophile" in the same way that another chap might say "I'm proud to be
gay".

I have not made such a suggestion. You don't hear people saying "I'm
proud to be epileptic" either. But they are not generally ashamed to
admit to having the condition either.

Society can be very tolerant so long as people conform to social
norms. I daresay people might even tolerate a paedophile in their midst so
long as he didn't try to seduce their children or persuade other adults to
his way of thinking.

That contradicts what you said before about demanding that he keep his
condition a secret. In any case, in our present climate I very much
doubt he *would* be tolerated.

In many a school, there will be a teacher who is known
to be attracted to children and who comes to watch them in the showers. The
children will joke about it but won't go complaining to the authorities
unless they are actually molested.

Such a teacher today would soon be severely reprimanded for doing so,
if not fired. And I also wouldn't put it past some children to play
on such a weakness in order to get a hold over the teacher.

--
Cynic

"Cynic" wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:36:39 +0100, "The Todal"
wrote:

Do you not believe it better if the person could be open and honest
about his condition and receive help to prevent it causing harm? Or
maybe epileptics would be better off living a lie and pretending to
others that they don't have the condition. Living in constant denial
and maybe proving their normality by becoming bus drivers or airline
pilots rather than being helped to control their condition and live in
a way that is unlikely to present a danger to others?

It will never be possible for a paedophile to say "I'm proud to be a
paedophile" in the same way that another chap might say "I'm proud to be
gay".

I have not made such a suggestion. You don't hear people saying "I'm
proud to be epileptic" either. But they are not generally ashamed to
admit to having the condition either.

I suppose a large section of the public believes that a paedophile chooses
that condition voluntarily. I don't think there is much scope for educating
the public when so many paedophilic activities are likely to break the
criminal law.


Society can be very tolerant so long as people conform to social
norms. I daresay people might even tolerate a paedophile in their midst so
long as he didn't try to seduce their children or persuade other adults to
his way of thinking.

That contradicts what you said before about demanding that he keep his
condition a secret. In any case, in our present climate I very much
doubt he *would* be tolerated.

I don't demand. I merely recommend.


In many a school, there will be a teacher who is known
to be attracted to children and who comes to watch them in the showers.
The
children will joke about it but won't go complaining to the authorities
unless they are actually molested.

Such a teacher today would soon be severely reprimanded for doing so,
if not fired. And I also wouldn't put it past some children to play
on such a weakness in order to get a hold over the teacher.

I had a homosexual paedophile scoutmaster - he molested a friend of mine but
ignored me. I think his tendencies were well known, but tolerated. The
troop was still able to recruit new members. My friend left, though.

Maybe times have changed. Maybe in those days people were scared of making
a fuss and rocking the boat and that is why they didn't complain about
scoutmasters or teachers. Or maybe the tolerance was genuine and it is
today's generation who are being unreasonable.

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:50:53 +0100, "The Todal"
wrote:

I have not made such a suggestion. You don't hear people saying "I'm
proud to be epileptic" either. But they are not generally ashamed to
admit to having the condition either.

I suppose a large section of the public believes that a paedophile chooses
that condition voluntarily. I don't think there is much scope for educating
the public when so many paedophilic activities are likely to break the
criminal law.

Such was once *exactly* the situation wrt homosexuals. Attitudes
change. The commonplace becomes unthinkable, and the unthinkable
becomes commonplace.

I had a homosexual paedophile scoutmaster - he molested a friend of mine but
ignored me.

Did that make you jealous :-)

I think his tendencies were well known, but tolerated. The
troop was still able to recruit new members. My friend left, though.

There is a question mark about Baden Powell himself of course.

It was once thought that paedophiles were the very best people to
teach and lead children, because their innate love for children would
make them more caring and dedicated than average. Of course the word
"paedophile" had a different connotation in those days, with the
emphasis being on the loving element rather than the sexual element.
But I doubt that people were unaware of the sexual side - it was, as
you say, tolerated and pretty much left unspoken.

Maybe times have changed. Maybe in those days people were scared of making
a fuss and rocking the boat and that is why they didn't complain about
scoutmasters or teachers. Or maybe the tolerance was genuine and it is
today's generation who are being unreasonable.

As said, attitudes change. It is impossible to say what is or is not
reasonable, because it is coloured by the attitudes that prevail
today. There was a time when non-belief in God was pretty much
unthinkable, and caning and whipping servants was considered perfectly
acceptable.

Sexually we have become far more tolerant in some areas and far less
tolerant in other areas.

--
Cynic