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Man hit woman who called him a paedophile
Published Date: 22 July 2008 By Freelance A twenty-four years old man who admitted striking a woman who called him a paedophile outside a bar in the Rosemount area of Derry earlier this year was yesterday given a conditional discharge for six months at the local Magistrate's Court. Jonathan Taylor, of Cornshell Fields, pleaded guilty to assaulting the woman on January 1 last. District Judge Harry Coll was told that the defendant and the woman had been drinking in the Village Inn where the two of them had exchanged words. The defendant met the woman after he left the premises to go to his cousin’s house. “More words were exchanged; she called him a paedophile and he took exception to that,” a prosecution lawyer told the court. “He struck the injured party who sustained a swollen nose and bruising to her face,” he added. Mr. Coll said he wasn’t surprised that the defendant had taken exception to being called a paedophile but he criticised him for hitting the woman. http://www.derryjournal.com/journal/...led.4309723.jp ***** WM www.critest.com |
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Perhaps we should rename this group uk.legal.paedo |
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:39:17 -0700 (PDT), Webmanager_CritEst
wrote: Man hit woman who called him a paedophile snip Mr. Coll said he wasn’t surprised that the defendant had taken exception to being called a paedophile but he criticised him for hitting the woman. That doesn't seem particularly newsworthy to me. Man is insulted and provoked. Assaults person who insulted him causing ABH, and is convicted of assault, with close to the minimum sentence for such an offence (presumably the provocation being considered a mitigating factor). Happens every day, and the fact that the specific insult was to call him a paedophile seems of only very minor interest. -- Alex Heney, Global Villager I went to the Net and all I got was this stupid tagline. To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom |
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On Jul 22, 9:50 pm, Alex Heney wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:39:17 -0700 (PDT), Webmanager_CritEst wrote: Man hit woman who called him a paedophile snip Mr. Coll said he wasn’t surprised that the defendant had taken exception to being called a paedophile but he criticised him for hitting the woman. That doesn't seem particularly newsworthy to me. Man is insulted and provoked. Assaults person who insulted him causing ABH, and is convicted of assault, with close to the minimum sentence for such an offence (presumably the provocation being considered a mitigating factor). Happens every day, and the fact that the specific insult was to call him a paedophile seems of only very minor interest. -- Alex Heney, Global Villager I went to the Net and all I got was this stupid tagline. To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom You think? "Mr. Coll said he wasn’t surprised that the defendant had taken exception to being called a paedophile but he criticised him for hitting the woman. " Why would someone take exception to being called a 'paedophile' and why would that warrant some kind of mitigation? Would one be so offended if they were called a 'depressive' or 'broken- legged'? WM |
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On Jul 22, 6:36 pm, allan tracy wrote:
Perhaps we should rename this group uk.legal.paedo That would be silly - it would be unrepresentative. WM |
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Webmanager_CritEst wrote:
On Jul 22, 9:50 pm, Alex Heney wrote: On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:39:17 -0700 (PDT), Webmanager_CritEst wrote: Man hit woman who called him a paedophile snip Mr. Coll said he wasn’t surprised that the defendant had taken exception to being called a paedophile but he criticised him for hitting the woman. That doesn't seem particularly newsworthy to me. Man is insulted and provoked. Assaults person who insulted him causing ABH, and is convicted of assault, with close to the minimum sentence for such an offence (presumably the provocation being considered a mitigating factor). Happens every day, and the fact that the specific insult was to call him a paedophile seems of only very minor interest. -- Alex Heney, Global Villager I went to the Net and all I got was this stupid tagline. To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom You think? "Mr. Coll said he wasn’t surprised that the defendant had taken exception to being called a paedophile but he criticised him for hitting the woman. " Why would someone take exception to being called a 'paedophile' and why would that warrant some kind of mitigation? That's easy. It is a huge stigma to be labelled as a paedophile - the merest suggestion that a person is a paedophile would be enough to cause bystanders to inflict physical violence upon them. Whether or not the insult was justified, it must warrant mitigation just as if the insult had been "Thief!". Would one be so offended if they were called a 'depressive' or 'broken- legged'? No, I really don't think so. |
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On Jul 23, 10:53 am, "The Todal" wrote:
Webmanager_CritEst wrote: On Jul 22, 9:50 pm, Alex Heney wrote: On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:39:17 -0700 (PDT), Webmanager_CritEst wrote: Man hit woman who called him a paedophile snip Mr. Coll said he wasn’t surprised that the defendant had taken exception to being called a paedophile but he criticised him for hitting the woman. That doesn't seem particularly newsworthy to me. Man is insulted and provoked. Assaults person who insulted him causing ABH, and is convicted of assault, with close to the minimum sentence for such an offence (presumably the provocation being considered a mitigating factor). Happens every day, and the fact that the specific insult was to call him a paedophile seems of only very minor interest. -- Alex Heney, Global Villager I went to the Net and all I got was this stupid tagline. To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom You think? "Mr. Coll said he wasn’t surprised that the defendant had taken exception to being called a paedophile but he criticised him for hitting the woman. " Why would someone take exception to being called a 'paedophile' and why would that warrant some kind of mitigation? That's easy. It is a huge stigma to be labelled as a paedophile - the merest suggestion that a person is a paedophile would be enough to cause bystanders to inflict physical violence upon them. Whether or not the insult was justified, it must warrant mitigation just as if the insult had been "Thief!". Would one be so offended if they were called a 'depressive' or 'broken- legged'? No, I really don't think so. Indeed. Now think on. WM |
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Webmanager_CritEst wrote:
On Jul 23, 10:53 am, "The Todal" wrote: No, I really don't think so. Indeed. Now think on. Thank you, but I can do that without your permission. I think we can all safely assume that it will never, ever, be socially acceptable to be a paedophile. Those who are paedophiles must keep their yearnings a secret. And I think that's for the best. |
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On Jul 23, 2:33 pm, "The Todal" wrote:
Webmanager_CritEst wrote: On Jul 23, 10:53 am, "The Todal" wrote: No, I really don't think so. Indeed. Now think on. Thank you, but I can do that without your permission. I think we can all safely assume that it will never, ever, be socially acceptable to be a paedophile. Those who are paedophiles must keep their yearnings a secret. And I think that's for the best. It is socially-accepted. You seem to be ignorant of this fact. WM |
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:33:34 +0100, "The Todal"
wrote: I think we can all safely assume that it will never, ever, be socially acceptable to be a paedophile. Those who are paedophiles must keep their yearnings a secret. And I think that's for the best. So you think it best that a person who has a condition that they did not want and has no control over should live a lie or be a social outcast? Do you feel the same way about any other condition that a person is born with? Epilepsy, perhaps, which was at one time a similarly unacceptable condition. Do you not believe it better if the person could be open and honest about his condition and receive help to prevent it causing harm? Or maybe epileptics would be better off living a lie and pretending to others that they don't have the condition. Living in constant denial and maybe proving their normality by becoming bus drivers or airline pilots rather than being helped to control their condition and live in a way that is unlikely to present a danger to others? -- Cynic |
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