Cynic wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:54:59 +0100, Hopeless wrote:

I have just discovered a water mains stop-cock under a small square
lid in my garden (ex-council). I have asked them to move it, but
they said they cannot/won't unless I agree to pay for a new supply
pipe. I think that's a bit of liberty, as they currently have their
property trespassing on mine. A year ago I successfully asked the
local authority to remove a "trespassing" lampost at zero cost to
myself, so I wonder were I stand if I want to force Southern
Water's hand.

I'm sure they would remove the waterpipe and stopcock if you pressed
them hard enough. They might charge you quite a bit to reconnect the
pipes in a way that suits you though.

ITYWF that your electricity supplier's meter is also trespassing on
one of the walls of your house. You should get them to remove that
while you are at it, as well as their cables.

one of the problems in ex council properties the one stop valve may
actually shut off up to 10 properties , it did in my mothers .

This does raise issues of access , especially when some stupid plonker
builds a conservatory over it

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"R. Mark Clayton" wrote in message
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"Hopeless" wrote in message
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Hi.

I have just discovered a water mains stop-cock under a small square lid
in my garden (ex-council). I have asked them to move it, but they said
they cannot/won't unless I agree to pay for a new supply pipe. I think
that's a bit of liberty, as they currently have their property
trespassing on mine. A year ago I successfully asked the local authority
to remove a "trespassing" lampost at zero cost to myself, so I wonder
were I stand if I want to force Southern Water's hand.

Regards,
Hopeless

Have a look at your title and contract of sale. It will allow existing
wayleaves and easements to continue.

Lawyers put this in to prevent ******* from cutting off their neighbours'
utilities, although in this case we see later in the thread that it is in
fact your own water supply

Heard a similar story just the other day :

A friends house, (ex council) was an end of terrace and due to that fact,
had most of the streets cable television apparatus attached to the detached
part of their house. There was even a fuse box that was situated inside a
cupboard inside the property.

He "allegedly" removed a fuse from the box, until the engineers arrived to
investigate the problem. After a small dispute, he ended up replacing the
fuse in exchange for free cable TV.

Not a bad deal if you ask me.

(By the way, I have no proof of this story and for all I know, he could have
been lying through his teeth )
(oh, and IANAL)

Regards

Bongman

Bongman wrote:
"R. Mark Clayton" wrote in message
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"Hopeless" wrote in message
...
Hi.

I have just discovered a water mains stop-cock under a small square lid
in my garden (ex-council). I have asked them to move it, but they said
they cannot/won't unless I agree to pay for a new supply pipe. I think
that's a bit of liberty, as they currently have their property
trespassing on mine. A year ago I successfully asked the local authority
to remove a "trespassing" lampost at zero cost to myself, so I wonder
were I stand if I want to force Southern Water's hand.

Regards,
Hopeless
Have a look at your title and contract of sale. It will allow existing
wayleaves and easements to continue.

Lawyers put this in to prevent ******* from cutting off their neighbours'
utilities, although in this case we see later in the thread that it is in
fact your own water supply

Heard a similar story just the other day :

A friends house, (ex council) was an end of terrace and due to that fact,
had most of the streets cable television apparatus attached to the detached
part of their house. There was even a fuse box that was situated inside a
cupboard inside the property.

He "allegedly" removed a fuse from the box, until the engineers arrived to
investigate the problem. After a small dispute, he ended up replacing the
fuse in exchange for free cable TV.

Not a bad deal if you ask me.

(By the way, I have no proof of this story and for all I know, he could have
been lying through his teeth )
(oh, and IANAL)

Regards

Bongman

Interesting story. I have a load of Eurobell junk and cables attached to
my exterior wall which I was going to simply cut away when I repaint my
house shortly. I guess it might be sensible to contact them first - and
ask for free cable ;-) - although I have no idea who owns them
now....guessing it's probably Virgin.

Hope

R. Mark Clayton wrote:
"Hopeless" wrote in message ...
Hi.

I have just discovered a water mains stop-cock under a small square lid in
my garden (ex-council). I have asked them to move it, but they said they
cannot/won't unless I agree to pay for a new supply pipe. I think that's a
bit of liberty, as they currently have their property trespassing on mine.
A year ago I successfully asked the local authority to remove a
"trespassing" lampost at zero cost to myself, so I wonder were I stand if
I want to force Southern Water's hand.

Regards,
Hopeless

Have a look at your title and contract of sale. It will allow existing
wayleaves and easements to continue.

Lawyers put this in to prevent ******* from cutting off their neighbours'
utilities, although in this case we see later in the thread that it is in
fact your own water supply

Deeds have no wayleaves or easements. That's exactly what the local
authority told me to check when I asked for the lampost to be removed.
Hope

Bongman wrote:
"R. Mark Clayton" wrote in message
news
"Hopeless" wrote in message
...
Hi.

I have just discovered a water mains stop-cock under a small square lid
in my garden (ex-council). I have asked them to move it, but they said
they cannot/won't unless I agree to pay for a new supply pipe. I think
that's a bit of liberty, as they currently have their property
trespassing on mine. A year ago I successfully asked the local authority
to remove a "trespassing" lampost at zero cost to myself, so I wonder
were I stand if I want to force Southern Water's hand.

Regards,
Hopeless
Have a look at your title and contract of sale. It will allow existing
wayleaves and easements to continue.

Lawyers put this in to prevent ******* from cutting off their neighbours'
utilities, although in this case we see later in the thread that it is in
fact your own water supply

Heard a similar story just the other day :

A friends house, (ex council) was an end of terrace and due to that fact,
had most of the streets cable television apparatus attached to the detached
part of their house. There was even a fuse box that was situated inside a
cupboard inside the property.

He "allegedly" removed a fuse from the box, until the engineers arrived to
investigate the problem. After a small dispute, he ended up replacing the
fuse in exchange for free cable TV.

Not a bad deal if you ask me.

(By the way, I have no proof of this story and for all I know, he could have
been lying through his teeth )
(oh, and IANAL)

Regards

Bongman


Could you explain about the "detached part of their 'end of terrace' house"?

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Moving things in still pictures!

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:54:59 +0100, Hopeless wrote:

Hi.

I have just discovered a water mains stop-cock under a small square lid
in my garden (ex-council). I have asked them to move it, but they said
they cannot/won't unless I agree to pay for a new supply pipe. I think
that's a bit of liberty, as they currently have their property
trespassing on mine. A year ago I successfully asked the local authority
to remove a "trespassing" lampost at zero cost to myself, so I wonder
were I stand if I want to force Southern Water's hand.

Regards,
Hopeless

Good idea that what everyone bill's goes up cos your a pratt

"Hopeless" wrote in message ...
R. Mark Clayton wrote:
"Hopeless" wrote in message
...
Hi.

I have just discovered a water mains stop-cock under a small square lid
in my garden (ex-council). I have asked them to move it, but they said
they cannot/won't unless I agree to pay for a new supply pipe. I think
that's a bit of liberty, as they currently have their property
trespassing on mine. A year ago I successfully asked the local authority
to remove a "trespassing" lampost at zero cost to myself, so I wonder
were I stand if I want to force Southern Water's hand.

Regards,
Hopeless

Have a look at your title and contract of sale. It will allow existing
wayleaves and easements to continue.

Lawyers put this in to prevent ******* from cutting off their neighbours'
utilities, although in this case we see later in the thread that it is in
fact your own water supply

Deeds have no wayleaves or easements. That's exactly what the local
authority told me to check when I asked for the lampost to be removed.
Hope
But it could well be a condition of supplying your house.
It would be like me asking the gas board to remove their pipes from my
house. They would, but how would I get my gas?

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:55:05 +0100, "
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:54:59 +0100, Hopeless wrote:

Hi.

I have just discovered a water mains stop-cock under a small square lid
in my garden (ex-council). I have asked them to move it, but they said
they cannot/won't unless I agree to pay for a new supply pipe. I think
that's a bit of liberty, as they currently have their property
trespassing on mine. A year ago I successfully asked the local authority
to remove a "trespassing" lampost at zero cost to myself, so I wonder
were I stand if I want to force Southern Water's hand.

Regards,
Hopeless

Good idea that what everyone bill's goes up cos your a pratt


Why don't you try turning it off (I bet you can't budge it!) and see
if any neighbours complain. Don't try too hard - you might isolate
yourself....

David

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:54:59 +0100, Hopeless wrote:

Hi.

I have just discovered a water mains stop-cock under a small square lid
in my garden (ex-council). I have asked them to move it, but they said
they cannot/won't unless I agree to pay for a new supply pipe. I think
that's a bit of liberty, as they currently have their property
trespassing on mine. A year ago I successfully asked the local authority
to remove a "trespassing" lampost at zero cost to myself, so I wonder
were I stand if I want to force Southern Water's hand.

Regards,
Hopeless

Firstly, I'd check that the stopcock only controls your water supply.
With council houses, it is not unusual for the stopcock to control the
supply to the block of houses of which your house forms a part. As the
house has been bought, you would be justified in asking for an
independent stopcock.

Check your deeds to see what easement the water company has for its
pipes.

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Alasdair.