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Old July 23rd 08, 12:54 PM posted to uk.legal
Hopeless
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Hi.

I have just discovered a water mains stop-cock under a small square lid
in my garden (ex-council). I have asked them to move it, but they said
they cannot/won't unless I agree to pay for a new supply pipe. I think
that's a bit of liberty, as they currently have their property
trespassing on mine. A year ago I successfully asked the local authority
to remove a "trespassing" lampost at zero cost to myself, so I wonder
were I stand if I want to force Southern Water's hand.

Regards,
Hopeless
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Old July 23rd 08, 01:00 PM posted to uk.legal
Simon[_5_]
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Hopeless wrote:
Hi.

I have just discovered a water mains stop-cock under a small square lid
in my garden (ex-council). I have asked them to move it, but they said
they cannot/won't unless I agree to pay for a new supply pipe. I think
that's a bit of liberty, as they currently have their property
trespassing on mine. A year ago I successfully asked the local authority
to remove a "trespassing" lampost at zero cost to myself, so I wonder
were I stand if I want to force Southern Water's hand.

Regards,
Hopeless

Whose water does the water control?
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Old July 23rd 08, 01:03 PM posted to uk.legal
Hopeless
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Simon wrote:
Hopeless wrote:
Hi.

I have just discovered a water mains stop-cock under a small square
lid in my garden (ex-council). I have asked them to move it, but they
said they cannot/won't unless I agree to pay for a new supply pipe. I
think that's a bit of liberty, as they currently have their property
trespassing on mine. A year ago I successfully asked the local
authority to remove a "trespassing" lampost at zero cost to myself, so
I wonder were I stand if I want to force Southern Water's hand.

Regards,
Hopeless

Whose water does the water control?


I assume just my supply.
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Old July 23rd 08, 01:44 PM posted to uk.legal
The Todal
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"Hopeless" wrote in message ...
Simon wrote:
Hopeless wrote:
Hi.

I have just discovered a water mains stop-cock under a small square lid
in my garden (ex-council). I have asked them to move it, but they said
they cannot/won't unless I agree to pay for a new supply pipe. I think
that's a bit of liberty, as they currently have their property
trespassing on mine. A year ago I successfully asked the local authority
to remove a "trespassing" lampost at zero cost to myself, so I wonder
were I stand if I want to force Southern Water's hand.

Regards,
Hopeless

Whose water does the water control?


I assume just my supply.


I have such a lid in my front garden and assumed it was fairly normal. Are
you saying that they ought to put such things in the public road rather than
on your property? If so, I can't imagine on what legal basis you could
argue such a thing. It would be like saying that your electricity meter
should be moved to your front gate, I suppose.


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Old July 23rd 08, 01:46 PM posted to uk.legal
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Default Water stopcock


"Hopeless" wrote in message ...
Simon wrote:
Hopeless wrote:
Hi.

I have just discovered a water mains stop-cock under a small square lid
in my garden (ex-council). I have asked them to move it, but they said
they cannot/won't unless I agree to pay for a new supply pipe. I think
that's a bit of liberty, as they currently have their property
trespassing on mine. A year ago I successfully asked the local authority
to remove a "trespassing" lampost at zero cost to myself, so I wonder
were I stand if I want to force Southern Water's hand.

Regards,
Hopeless

Whose water does the water control?


I assume just my supply.


So...
You want Southern Water to remove the water supply to your house?


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Old July 23rd 08, 02:00 PM posted to uk.legal
andrew
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:03:46 +0100, Hopeless wrote:

Simon wrote:
Hopeless wrote:
Hi.

I have just discovered a water mains stop-cock under a small square
lid in my garden (ex-council). I have asked them to move it, but they
said they cannot/won't unless I agree to pay for a new supply pipe. I
think that's a bit of liberty, as they currently have their property
trespassing on mine. A year ago I successfully asked the local
authority to remove a "trespassing" lampost at zero cost to myself, so
I wonder were I stand if I want to force Southern Water's hand.

Regards,
Hopeless

Whose water does the water control?


I assume just my supply.


Why not just ask them if they will move it in to the next street for
you?

Why do you use the name "Hopeless" when you post?
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Old July 23rd 08, 02:14 PM posted to uk.legal
AndyW
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Default Water stopcock

"Hopeless" wrote in message ...
Simon wrote:
Whose water does the water control?


I assume just my supply.


What is the problem with it being there? Is it just a point of principle?
If it is in your water supply and there is a problem with a burst pipe then
just refuse to let them onto your property to turn itoff.
That'll teach 'em.

Andy


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Old July 23rd 08, 03:08 PM posted to uk.legal
Janitor of Lunacy
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Hopeless wrote:
Hi.

I have just discovered a water mains stop-cock under a small square
lid in my garden (ex-council). I have asked them to move it, but they
said they cannot/won't unless I agree to pay for a new supply pipe. I
think that's a bit of liberty, as they currently have their property
trespassing on mine. A year ago I successfully asked the local
authority to remove a "trespassing" lampost at zero cost to myself,
so I wonder were I stand if I want to force Southern Water's hand.

Regards,
Hopeless


You stand on shaky ground. Look up "statutory easement".


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Old July 23rd 08, 03:22 PM posted to uk.legal
Cynic
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:54:59 +0100, Hopeless wrote:

I have just discovered a water mains stop-cock under a small square lid
in my garden (ex-council). I have asked them to move it, but they said
they cannot/won't unless I agree to pay for a new supply pipe. I think
that's a bit of liberty, as they currently have their property
trespassing on mine. A year ago I successfully asked the local authority
to remove a "trespassing" lampost at zero cost to myself, so I wonder
were I stand if I want to force Southern Water's hand.


I'm sure they would remove the waterpipe and stopcock if you pressed
them hard enough. They might charge you quite a bit to reconnect the
pipes in a way that suits you though.

ITYWF that your electricity supplier's meter is also trespassing on
one of the walls of your house. You should get them to remove that
while you are at it, as well as their cables.

--
Cynic

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Old July 23rd 08, 03:57 PM posted to uk.legal
R. Mark Clayton
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Default Water stopcock


"Hopeless" wrote in message ...
Hi.

I have just discovered a water mains stop-cock under a small square lid in
my garden (ex-council). I have asked them to move it, but they said they
cannot/won't unless I agree to pay for a new supply pipe. I think that's a
bit of liberty, as they currently have their property trespassing on mine.
A year ago I successfully asked the local authority to remove a
"trespassing" lampost at zero cost to myself, so I wonder were I stand if
I want to force Southern Water's hand.

Regards,
Hopeless


Have a look at your title and contract of sale. It will allow existing
wayleaves and easements to continue.

Lawyers put this in to prevent ******* from cutting off their neighbours'
utilities, although in this case we see later in the thread that it is in
fact your own water supply


 




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