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On Aug 27, 7:28 pm, "Airmax" wrote:
"Webmanager_CritEst" wrote in message ... On Aug 27, 6:04 pm, "Airmax" wrote: "Webmanager_CritEst" wrote in message ... On Aug 27, 5:43 pm, "The Todal" wrote: Webmanager_CritEst wrote: Presumed guilty: The loving stepfather devoted to helping autistic youngsters now fighting to clear his name By Natasha Courtenay-Smith Last updated at 12:26 AM on 27th August 2008 Every second Thursday, John Pinnington follows the same, rather bleak routine. After breakfast, he heads to his local JobCentre, where he collects his dole money for the week ahead. It is a paltry sum, a mere fraction of what he used to earn when he was the respected deputy headmaster of an Oxfordshire college for young adults with learning difficulties. He and his wife Rosie no longer enjoy the comforts of the lifestyle they once led. Instead of playing the martyr and appealing for help from Daily Wail readers, he should behave like a professional. Apply for jobs, submit his CV and explain if necessary with a copy of the court judgment that he is in fact scrupulously honest and has never abused anyone. But he has probably got himself a reputation now as a whinger and a troublemaker. Again, you have no idea. WM The rules have been introduced at the demand of the red tops, a few are bound to suffer best he find another job where he dont need a check. Did you read the full piece? WM Yes I did as did the Lord Justice 'He has not worked since and now considers himself unemployable.' With every job he applies for - including more teaching jobs, a job as a groundsman and voluntary positions - he tells employers about the stain on his CRB. 'I think even if I was applying for a job stacking shelves, the allegations would still mean I wouldn't get it,' says John. 'And I understand the logic: who wants to employ a man who has been sacked, who has sordid allegations against him and a two-year gap on his CV? Why take the risk?' ***** WM |
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"Webmanager_CritEst" wrote in message
... On Aug 27, 7:28 pm, "Airmax" wrote: "Webmanager_CritEst" wrote in message ... On Aug 27, 6:04 pm, "Airmax" wrote: "Webmanager_CritEst" wrote in message ... On Aug 27, 5:43 pm, "The Todal" wrote: Webmanager_CritEst wrote: Presumed guilty: The loving stepfather devoted to helping autistic youngsters now fighting to clear his name By Natasha Courtenay-Smith Last updated at 12:26 AM on 27th August 2008 Every second Thursday, John Pinnington follows the same, rather bleak routine. After breakfast, he heads to his local JobCentre, where he collects his dole money for the week ahead. It is a paltry sum, a mere fraction of what he used to earn when he was the respected deputy headmaster of an Oxfordshire college for young adults with learning difficulties. He and his wife Rosie no longer enjoy the comforts of the lifestyle they once led. Instead of playing the martyr and appealing for help from Daily Wail readers, he should behave like a professional. Apply for jobs, submit his CV and explain if necessary with a copy of the court judgment that he is in fact scrupulously honest and has never abused anyone. But he has probably got himself a reputation now as a whinger and a troublemaker. Again, you have no idea. WM The rules have been introduced at the demand of the red tops, a few are bound to suffer best he find another job where he dont need a check. Did you read the full piece? WM Yes I did as did the Lord Justice 'He has not worked since and now considers himself unemployable.' With every job he applies for - including more teaching jobs, a job as a groundsman and voluntary positions - he tells employers about the stain on his CRB. 'I think even if I was applying for a job stacking shelves, the allegations would still mean I wouldn't get it,' says John. 'And I understand the logic: who wants to employ a man who has been sacked, who has sordid allegations against him and a two-year gap on his CV? Why take the risk?' ***** WM Where would the stacking shelves job be then mothercare ? |
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Once no. Twice ermmmmmmm. Three times?
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On Aug 27, 8:11 pm, "Airmax" wrote:
"Webmanager_CritEst" wrote in message ... On Aug 27, 7:28 pm, "Airmax" wrote: "Webmanager_CritEst" wrote in message ... On Aug 27, 6:04 pm, "Airmax" wrote: "Webmanager_CritEst" wrote in message ... On Aug 27, 5:43 pm, "The Todal" wrote: Webmanager_CritEst wrote: Presumed guilty: The loving stepfather devoted to helping autistic youngsters now fighting to clear his name By Natasha Courtenay-Smith Last updated at 12:26 AM on 27th August 2008 Every second Thursday, John Pinnington follows the same, rather bleak routine. After breakfast, he heads to his local JobCentre, where he collects his dole money for the week ahead. It is a paltry sum, a mere fraction of what he used to earn when he was the respected deputy headmaster of an Oxfordshire college for young adults with learning difficulties. He and his wife Rosie no longer enjoy the comforts of the lifestyle they once led. Instead of playing the martyr and appealing for help from Daily Wail readers, he should behave like a professional. Apply for jobs, submit his CV and explain if necessary with a copy of the court judgment that he is in fact scrupulously honest and has never abused anyone. But he has probably got himself a reputation now as a whinger and a troublemaker. Again, you have no idea. WM The rules have been introduced at the demand of the red tops, a few are bound to suffer best he find another job where he dont need a check. Did you read the full piece? WM Yes I did as did the Lord Justice 'He has not worked since and now considers himself unemployable.' With every job he applies for - including more teaching jobs, a job as a groundsman and voluntary positions - he tells employers about the stain on his CRB. 'I think even if I was applying for a job stacking shelves, the allegations would still mean I wouldn't get it,' says John. 'And I understand the logic: who wants to employ a man who has been sacked, who has sordid allegations against him and a two-year gap on his CV? Why take the risk?' ***** W Where would the stacking shelves job be then mothercare ? It does not matter. It is about the 'public face' shown by employees to customers. You think a man of his calibre should stack shelves? A useful application of training and skills? WM |
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On Aug 27, 8:11 pm, "Airmax" wrote:
"Webmanager_CritEst" wrote in message ... On Aug 27, 7:28 pm, "Airmax" wrote: "Webmanager_CritEst" wrote in message ... On Aug 27, 6:04 pm, "Airmax" wrote: "Webmanager_CritEst" wrote in message ... On Aug 27, 5:43 pm, "The Todal" wrote: Webmanager_CritEst wrote: Presumed guilty: The loving stepfather devoted to helping autistic youngsters now fighting to clear his name By Natasha Courtenay-Smith Last updated at 12:26 AM on 27th August 2008 Every second Thursday, John Pinnington follows the same, rather bleak routine. After breakfast, he heads to his local JobCentre, where he collects his dole money for the week ahead. It is a paltry sum, a mere fraction of what he used to earn when he was the respected deputy headmaster of an Oxfordshire college for young adults with learning difficulties. He and his wife Rosie no longer enjoy the comforts of the lifestyle they once led. Instead of playing the martyr and appealing for help from Daily Wail readers, he should behave like a professional. Apply for jobs, submit his CV and explain if necessary with a copy of the court judgment that he is in fact scrupulously honest and has never abused anyone. But he has probably got himself a reputation now as a whinger and a troublemaker. Again, you have no idea. WM The rules have been introduced at the demand of the red tops, a few are bound to suffer best he find another job where he dont need a check. Did you read the full piece? WM Yes I did as did the Lord Justice 'He has not worked since and now considers himself unemployable.' With every job he applies for - including more teaching jobs, a job as a groundsman and voluntary positions - he tells employers about the stain on his CRB. 'I think even if I was applying for a job stacking shelves, the allegations would still mean I wouldn't get it,' says John. 'And I understand the logic: who wants to employ a man who has been sacked, who has sordid allegations against him and a two-year gap on his CV? Why take the risk?' ***** W Where would the stacking shelves job be then mothercare ? It does not matter. It is about the 'public face' shown by employees to customers. You think a man of his calibre should stack shelves? A useful application of training and skills? WM |
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"still a novice" wrote in message ... The Todal wrote: Webmanager_CritEst wrote: Presumed guilty: The loving stepfather devoted to helping autistic youngsters now fighting to clear his name By Natasha Courtenay-Smith Last updated at 12:26 AM on 27th August 2008 Every second Thursday, John Pinnington follows the same, rather bleak routine. After breakfast, he heads to his local JobCentre, where he collects his dole money for the week ahead. It is a paltry sum, a mere fraction of what he used to earn when he was the respected deputy headmaster of an Oxfordshire college for young adults with learning difficulties. He and his wife Rosie no longer enjoy the comforts of the lifestyle they once led. Instead of playing the martyr and appealing for help from Daily Wail readers, he should behave like a professional. Apply for jobs, submit his CV and explain if necessary with a copy of the court judgment that he is in fact scrupulously honest and has never abused anyone. But he has probably got himself a reputation now as a whinger and a troublemaker. I cant begin to describe what a repulsive comment that is, you complete and utter ****ing dickhead. Oh, did I offend you personally? I'm so glad. Made my day. |
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"Michael Swift" wrote in message ... In article , still a novice writes But he has probably got himself a reputation now as a whinger and a troublemaker. I cant begin to describe what a repulsive comment that is, you complete and utter ****ing dickhead. He was interviewed on Radio 2 this lunch time, justice has certainly let him down big time. No, it really hasn't. He has chosen a field of work where he was always likely to face allegations of abuse. It's not so different from a policeman who might regularly face accusations of being violent or corrupt. The answer is to deal with it professionally. If potential employers don't like him, it's all too easy for him to blame it on his CRB record. Maybe he's also a bit of an arrogant ******* who hasn't been that easy to work with, and this shines through. This system is so open to abuse by nasty individuals that it should be discontinued at once, there was a phone in from a teacher who disciplined an unruly pupil who immediately made a totally unfounded assault complaint against him, this made it impossible for him to get another job for several months until he found an employer with a bit of common sense. Sounds like half a story. Was the teacher dismissed? Was the dismissal fair or unfair? Was the "unfounded" complaint actually founded? Did the teacher think it was still okay to give clips round the ear or taps on the leg? |
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"Webmanager_CritEst" wrote in message
... On Aug 27, 8:11 pm, "Airmax" wrote: "Webmanager_CritEst" wrote in message ... On Aug 27, 7:28 pm, "Airmax" wrote: "Webmanager_CritEst" wrote in message ... On Aug 27, 6:04 pm, "Airmax" wrote: "Webmanager_CritEst" wrote in message ... On Aug 27, 5:43 pm, "The Todal" wrote: Webmanager_CritEst wrote: Presumed guilty: The loving stepfather devoted to helping autistic youngsters now fighting to clear his name By Natasha Courtenay-Smith Last updated at 12:26 AM on 27th August 2008 Every second Thursday, John Pinnington follows the same, rather bleak routine. After breakfast, he heads to his local JobCentre, where he collects his dole money for the week ahead. It is a paltry sum, a mere fraction of what he used to earn when he was the respected deputy headmaster of an Oxfordshire college for young adults with learning difficulties. He and his wife Rosie no longer enjoy the comforts of the lifestyle they once led. Instead of playing the martyr and appealing for help from Daily Wail readers, he should behave like a professional. Apply for jobs, submit his CV and explain if necessary with a copy of the court judgment that he is in fact scrupulously honest and has never abused anyone. But he has probably got himself a reputation now as a whinger and a troublemaker. Again, you have no idea. WM The rules have been introduced at the demand of the red tops, a few are bound to suffer best he find another job where he dont need a check. Did you read the full piece? WM Yes I did as did the Lord Justice 'He has not worked since and now considers himself unemployable.' With every job he applies for - including more teaching jobs, a job as a groundsman and voluntary positions - he tells employers about the stain on his CRB. 'I think even if I was applying for a job stacking shelves, the allegations would still mean I wouldn't get it,' says John. 'And I understand the logic: who wants to employ a man who has been sacked, who has sordid allegations against him and a two-year gap on his CV? Why take the risk?' ***** W Where would the stacking shelves job be then mothercare ? It does not matter. It is about the 'public face' shown by employees to customers. You think a man of his calibre should stack shelves? A useful application of training and skills? WM Well his school days are history better look at other jobs, that's the reality. |
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On Aug 27, 8:56 pm, "Airmax" wrote:
"Webmanager_CritEst" wrote in message ... On Aug 27, 8:11 pm, "Airmax" wrote: "Webmanager_CritEst" wrote in message ... On Aug 27, 7:28 pm, "Airmax" wrote: "Webmanager_CritEst" wrote in message ... On Aug 27, 6:04 pm, "Airmax" wrote: "Webmanager_CritEst" wrote in message ... On Aug 27, 5:43 pm, "The Todal" wrote: Webmanager_CritEst wrote: Presumed guilty: The loving stepfather devoted to helping autistic youngsters now fighting to clear his name By Natasha Courtenay-Smith Last updated at 12:26 AM on 27th August 2008 Every second Thursday, John Pinnington follows the same, rather bleak routine. After breakfast, he heads to his local JobCentre, where he collects his dole money for the week ahead. It is a paltry sum, a mere fraction of what he used to earn when he was the respected deputy headmaster of an Oxfordshire college for young adults with learning difficulties. He and his wife Rosie no longer enjoy the comforts of the lifestyle they once led. Instead of playing the martyr and appealing for help from Daily Wail readers, he should behave like a professional. Apply for jobs, submit his CV and explain if necessary with a copy of the court judgment that he is in fact scrupulously honest and has never abused anyone. But he has probably got himself a reputation now as a whinger and a troublemaker. Again, you have no idea. WM The rules have been introduced at the demand of the red tops, a few are bound to suffer best he find another job where he dont need a check. Did you read the full piece? WM Yes I did as did the Lord Justice 'He has not worked since and now considers himself unemployable.' With every job he applies for - including more teaching jobs, a job as a groundsman and voluntary positions - he tells employers about the stain on his CRB. 'I think even if I was applying for a job stacking shelves, the allegations would still mean I wouldn't get it,' says John. 'And I understand the logic: who wants to employ a man who has been sacked, who has sordid allegations against him and a two-year gap on his CV? Why take the risk?' ***** W Where would the stacking shelves job be then mothercare ? It does not matter. It is about the 'public face' shown by employees to customers. You think a man of his calibre should stack shelves? A useful application of training and skills? WM Well his school days are history better look at other jobs, that's the reality. Not quite got the idea of the story have you? I expect it from The T, but you? WM |
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On Aug 27, 8:56 pm, "Airmax" wrote:
"Webmanager_CritEst" wrote in message ... On Aug 27, 8:11 pm, "Airmax" wrote: "Webmanager_CritEst" wrote in message ... On Aug 27, 7:28 pm, "Airmax" wrote: "Webmanager_CritEst" wrote in message ... On Aug 27, 6:04 pm, "Airmax" wrote: "Webmanager_CritEst" wrote in message ... On Aug 27, 5:43 pm, "The Todal" wrote: Webmanager_CritEst wrote: Presumed guilty: The loving stepfather devoted to helping autistic youngsters now fighting to clear his name By Natasha Courtenay-Smith Last updated at 12:26 AM on 27th August 2008 Every second Thursday, John Pinnington follows the same, rather bleak routine. After breakfast, he heads to his local JobCentre, where he collects his dole money for the week ahead. It is a paltry sum, a mere fraction of what he used to earn when he was the respected deputy headmaster of an Oxfordshire college for young adults with learning difficulties. He and his wife Rosie no longer enjoy the comforts of the lifestyle they once led. Instead of playing the martyr and appealing for help from Daily Wail readers, he should behave like a professional. Apply for jobs, submit his CV and explain if necessary with a copy of the court judgment that he is in fact scrupulously honest and has never abused anyone. But he has probably got himself a reputation now as a whinger and a troublemaker. Again, you have no idea. WM The rules have been introduced at the demand of the red tops, a few are bound to suffer best he find another job where he dont need a check. Did you read the full piece? WM Yes I did as did the Lord Justice 'He has not worked since and now considers himself unemployable.' With every job he applies for - including more teaching jobs, a job as a groundsman and voluntary positions - he tells employers about the stain on his CRB. 'I think even if I was applying for a job stacking shelves, the allegations would still mean I wouldn't get it,' says John. 'And I understand the logic: who wants to employ a man who has been sacked, who has sordid allegations against him and a two-year gap on his CV? Why take the risk?' ***** W Where would the stacking shelves job be then mothercare ? It does not matter. It is about the 'public face' shown by employees to customers. You think a man of his calibre should stack shelves? A useful application of training and skills? WM Well his school days are history better look at other jobs, that's the reality. Not quite got the idea of the story have you? I expect it from The T, but you? WM |
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