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"Webmanager_CritEst" wrote in message ... Page last updated at 16:15 GMT, Monday, 29 September 2008 17:15 UK Glitter banned from foreign trip Gary Glitter has been banned from travelling abroad Paedophile and former pop star Gary Glitter has been banned from travelling to Spain via France. Because Glitter - whose real name is Paul Gadd - is on the sex offenders register, he had to tell authorities of his travel plans seven days in advance. Ashford magistrates granted an order requested by Kent Police last Thursday stopping Glitter from travelling. The 64-year-old has the right to appeal, and the ban applies only to those two countries. Glitter did not attend last Thursday's hearing but was represented by London-based Corker Binning Solicitors. A Kent Police spokeswoman said: "Kent Police will do everything necessary to protect children in this country, or abroad." But she added they would not discuss individual cases or the possible whereabouts of Glitter. Travel ban A Foreign Travel Order stops someone from leaving the country. To obtain one, police have to apply to the courts and prove an individual is at risk of reoffending. The order can last for up to six months but the person can keep their passport during that time. Glitter returned to the UK in August after spending 27 months in a Vietnamese jail for abusing two girls. He was denied entry to Hong Kong and to Thailand after he refused to return to Britain following his deportation. The Chinese authorities sent him back to Bangkok. Any offender who has a long history of sexual abuse should be considered a risk and all children wherever they live must be protected Dr Zoe Hilton NSPCC policy advisor Thai authorities then refused to let him stay despite Glitter pleading for medical treatment, saying he was having a heart attack. He eventually boarded a flight to the UK, returning last month. He has informed police of the address at which he is living, but the location has been kept secret. Dr Zoe Hilton, a policy adviser to child protection charity NSPCC, said "Kent Police should be congratulated for taking swift action to prevent Gary Glitter from travelling abroad but we must ensure he continues to be blocked from travelling in the future." She said the government needs to ensure measures are in place which would stop Glitter and other sex offenders from travelling abroad. Dr Hilton said: "Any offender who has a long history of sexual abuse should be considered a risk and all children wherever they live must be protected." Glitter was previously on the sex offenders register for seven years, after he was jailed in the UK for four months in 1999 for possessing images of child abuse. He became famous as a glam rock star in the 1970s. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7642234.stm *** "She said the government needs to ensure measures are in place which would stop Glitter and other sex offenders from travelling abroad." And what's wrong with that? |
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"Mad Cliffy's Legs Don't Work" wrote in message ... "A Foreign Travel Order stops someone from leaving the country. To obtain one, police have to apply to the courts and prove an individual is at risk of reoffending." So the police managed to provide to the magistrates the required proof, did they? It would seem so, as the Order was granted. |
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On Sep 29, 6:42*pm, "Mad Cliffy's Legs Don't Work"
wrote: "A Foreign Travel Order stops someone from leaving the country. To obtain one, police have to apply to the courts and prove an individual is at risk of reoffending." So the police managed to provide to the magistrates the required proof, did they? 114 Foreign travel orders: applications and grounds (1) A chief officer of police may by complaint to a magistrates' court apply for an order under this section (a “foreign travel order”) in respect of a person (“the defendant”) who resides in his police area or who the chief officer believes is in or is intending to come to his police area if it appears to the chief officer that— (a) the defendant is a qualifying offender, and (b) the defendant has since the appropriate date acted in such a way as to give reasonable cause to believe that it is necessary for such an order to be made. (2) An application under subsection (1) may be made to any magistrates' court whose commission area includes any part of the applicant’s police area. (3) On the application, the court may make a foreign travel order if it is satisfied that— (a) the defendant is a qualifying offender, and (b) the defendant’s behaviour since the appropriate date makes it necessary to make such an order, for the purpose of protecting children generally or any child from serious sexual harm from the defendant outside the United Kingdom. 115 Section 114: interpretation (1) Subsections (2) to (5) apply for the purposes of section 114. (2) “Protecting children generally or any child from serious sexual harm from the defendant outside the United Kingdom” means protecting persons under 16 generally or any particular person under 16 from serious physical or psychological harm caused by the defendant doing, outside the United Kingdom, anything which would constitute an offence listed in Schedule 3 if done in any part of the United Kingdom. (3) Acts and behaviour include those occurring before the commencement of this Part. (4) “Qualifying offender” has the meaning given by section 116. (5) “Appropriate date”, in relation to a qualifying offender, means the date or (as the case may be) the first date on which he was convicted, found or cautioned as mentioned in subsection (1) or (3) of section 116. (6) In this section and section 116 as they apply to Northern Ireland, references to persons, or to a person, under 16 are to be read as references to persons, or to a person, under 17. http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2003...pt2-pb6-l1g114 **** "the defendant has since the appropriate date acted in such a way as to give reasonable cause to believe that it is necessary for such an order to be made" "the defendant’s behaviour since the appropriate date makes it necessary to make such an order, for the purpose of protecting children generally or any child from serious sexual harm from the defendant outside the United Kingdom." “Protecting children generally or any child from serious sexual harm from the defendant outside the United Kingdom” means protecting persons under 16 generally or any particular person under 16 from serious physical or psychological harm caused by the defendant doing, outside the United Kingdom, anything which would constitute an offence listed in Schedule 3 if done in any part of the United Kingdom." Reasonable cause. The defendant’s behaviour since the appropriate date. Protecting children generally or any child from serious sexual harm ... means protecting persons under 16 generally or any particular person under 16 from serious physical or psychological harm caused by the defendant. WM |
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On Sep 29, 6:52*pm, "mert1639" wrote:
"Webmanager_CritEst" wrote in message ... Page last updated at 16:15 GMT, Monday, 29 September 2008 17:15 UK Glitter banned from foreign trip Gary Glitter has been banned from travelling abroad Paedophile and former pop star Gary Glitter has been banned from travelling to Spain via France. Because Glitter - whose real name is Paul Gadd - is on the sex offenders register, he had to tell authorities of his travel plans seven days in advance. Ashford magistrates granted an order requested by Kent Police last Thursday stopping Glitter from travelling. The 64-year-old has the right to appeal, and the ban applies only to those two countries. Glitter did not attend last Thursday's hearing but was represented by London-based Corker Binning Solicitors. A Kent Police spokeswoman said: "Kent Police will do everything necessary to protect children in this country, or abroad." But she added they would not discuss individual cases or the possible whereabouts of Glitter. Travel ban A Foreign Travel Order stops someone from leaving the country. To obtain one, police have to apply to the courts and prove an individual is at risk of reoffending. The order can last for up to six months but the person can keep their passport during that time. Glitter returned to the UK in August after spending 27 months in a Vietnamese jail for abusing two girls. He was denied entry to Hong Kong and to Thailand after he refused to return to Britain following his deportation. The Chinese authorities sent him back to Bangkok. Any offender who has a long history of sexual abuse should be considered a risk and all children wherever they live must be protected Dr Zoe Hilton NSPCC policy advisor Thai authorities then refused to let him stay despite Glitter pleading for medical treatment, saying he was having a heart attack. He eventually boarded a flight to the UK, returning last month. He has informed police of the address at which he is living, but the location has been kept secret. Dr Zoe Hilton, a policy adviser to child protection charity NSPCC, said "Kent Police should be congratulated for taking swift action to prevent Gary Glitter from travelling abroad but we must ensure he continues to be blocked from travelling in the future." She said the government needs to ensure measures are in place which would stop Glitter and other sex offenders from travelling abroad. Dr Hilton said: "Any offender who has a long history of sexual abuse should be considered a risk and all children wherever they live must be protected." Glitter was previously on the sex offenders register for seven years, after he was jailed in the UK for four months in 1999 for possessing images of child abuse. He became famous as a glam rock star in the 1970s. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7642234.stm *** "She said the government needs to ensure measures are in place which would stop Glitter and other sex offenders from travelling abroad." And what's wrong with that? Well, nearly everything that could be. WM |
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"Webmanager_CritEst" wrote in message ... Gary Glitter banned from travelling Convicted paedophile Gary Glitter has been banned from travelling to France and Spain under an order granted by magistrates. Kent Police were granted the order at Ashford Magistrates' Court last Thursday. Shame the Police don't do that to all paedophiles. |
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"Webmanager_CritEst" wrote in message ... Gary Glitter banned from travelling Convicted paedophile Gary Glitter has been banned from travelling to France and Spain under an order granted by magistrates. Kent Police were granted the order at Ashford Magistrates' Court last Thursday. Glitter, whose real name is Paul Gadd, did not attend the hearing but was represented by Corker Binning Solicitors. A Court Service spokesman said: "On Thursday, September 25 at Ashford Magistrates' Court, Kent Police applied for an application to prevent foreign travel to France and Spain until March 25 by Mr Paul Gadd." Kent Police said they would not discuss individual cases or the possible whereabouts of Glitter in the county. A Kent Police spokeswoman said: "Kent Police will do everything necessary to protect children in this country, or abroad. "From our point of view, it is easier to monitor someone who remains in the UK because we have comprehensive systems in place to manage any potential risks more effectively. "Protecting the residents of Kent is the paramount concern of Kent Police and we work closely to monitor the behaviour of registered sex offenders in the county to minimise any risk to the public that may exist." She added: "However, we will not discuss whether or not a named person is on the sex offenders register in Kent, or the circumstances of individual cases. We will not discuss any details about named registered sex offenders, which extends to confirming or denying speculation about where they may live." Glitter, 64, has laid low in the UK since he was ejected from south- east Asia at the end of his Vietnamese prison term last month. He had served two years and nine months of a three-year sentence for sex crimes involving girls aged 10 and 11. http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_3027035.html?menu= **** WM www.critest.com I thought that one of the fundamental human rights in the European Convention on Human Rights was the "Right of Freedom to Travel", and I just wonder how they are getting round this. We used to criticize the Eastern block for not letting their citizens travel, seems we are now doing the same thing. I'm one of those who worries about this being the "thin edge of the wedge" First football hooligans, then paedophiles, then what next...... Perhaps dangerous drivers, to protect the French and Italian drivers, or those who haven't paid a parking fine! And as far as GG is concerned, I don't give a damm one way or another. B. |
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"Webmanager_CritEst" wrote in message ... On Sep 29, 6:52 pm, "mert1639" wrote: "Webmanager_CritEst" wrote in message ... Page last updated at 16:15 GMT, Monday, 29 September 2008 17:15 UK Glitter banned from foreign trip Gary Glitter has been banned from travelling abroad Paedophile and former pop star Gary Glitter has been banned from travelling to Spain via France. Because Glitter - whose real name is Paul Gadd - is on the sex offenders register, he had to tell authorities of his travel plans seven days in advance. Ashford magistrates granted an order requested by Kent Police last Thursday stopping Glitter from travelling. The 64-year-old has the right to appeal, and the ban applies only to those two countries. Glitter did not attend last Thursday's hearing but was represented by London-based Corker Binning Solicitors. A Kent Police spokeswoman said: "Kent Police will do everything necessary to protect children in this country, or abroad." But she added they would not discuss individual cases or the possible whereabouts of Glitter. Travel ban A Foreign Travel Order stops someone from leaving the country. To obtain one, police have to apply to the courts and prove an individual is at risk of reoffending. The order can last for up to six months but the person can keep their passport during that time. Glitter returned to the UK in August after spending 27 months in a Vietnamese jail for abusing two girls. He was denied entry to Hong Kong and to Thailand after he refused to return to Britain following his deportation. The Chinese authorities sent him back to Bangkok. Any offender who has a long history of sexual abuse should be considered a risk and all children wherever they live must be protected Dr Zoe Hilton NSPCC policy advisor Thai authorities then refused to let him stay despite Glitter pleading for medical treatment, saying he was having a heart attack. He eventually boarded a flight to the UK, returning last month. He has informed police of the address at which he is living, but the location has been kept secret. Dr Zoe Hilton, a policy adviser to child protection charity NSPCC, said "Kent Police should be congratulated for taking swift action to prevent Gary Glitter from travelling abroad but we must ensure he continues to be blocked from travelling in the future." She said the government needs to ensure measures are in place which would stop Glitter and other sex offenders from travelling abroad. Dr Hilton said: "Any offender who has a long history of sexual abuse should be considered a risk and all children wherever they live must be protected." Glitter was previously on the sex offenders register for seven years, after he was jailed in the UK for four months in 1999 for possessing images of child abuse. He became famous as a glam rock star in the 1970s. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7642234.stm *** "She said the government needs to ensure measures are in place which would stop Glitter and other sex offenders from travelling abroad." And what's wrong with that? Well, nearly everything that could be. To you, someone who seems not to belive that children can be abused. |
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On Sep 29, 7:22*pm, "Retired" wrote:
I'm one of those who worries about this being the "thin edge of the wedge" First football hooligans, then paedophiles, then what next...... B.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh absolutely. It's a little bit like the London Congestion Charge; the moment they managed to get it onto the Statute Books, it was only a matter of time before they increased the catchment area.......and they'll continue to do so until 10 years down the line you won't be able to get within 40 miles of London without paying the charge. So as you say, today foreign travel bans can be applied to football hooligans, paedophiles.......and you don't bat an eyelid. Next it will be anyone demmed to be a terrorist threat to another country. What defines "a terrorist threat"? Ha ha, your Government is already one jump ahead of you. It will mean what your Government tells you it means. And you won't bat an eyelid. Left your rubbish bin out on the wrong day? Bang goes your foreign holiday....... And you think I'm kidding, right? |
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Left your rubbish bin out on the wrong day? *Bang goes your foreign holiday....... And you think I'm kidding, right? for those that do, don't forget that there was a suggestion not *that* long ago, that fathers who didn't pay child maintenance could lose the right to travel abroad. The ability to curtail peoples ability to travel is very useful, if you find your policies are causing the people you *need* to stay in the country (i.e. the people who actually make money to pay your taxes) to leave the country. Unfortunately the US, Canada and Australia told HMG where to shove their request that the CSA be allowed to chase their citizens through their courts .... |
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On Sep 29, 7:37*pm, "Mad Cliffy's Legs Don't Work"
wrote: On Sep 29, 7:22*pm, "Retired" wrote: I'm one of those who worries about this being the "thin edge of the wedge" First football hooligans, then paedophiles, then what next...... B.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh absolutely. It's a little bit like the London Congestion Charge; the moment they managed to get it onto the Statute Books, it was only a matter of time before they increased the catchment area.......and they'll continue to do so until 10 years down the line you won't be able to get within 40 miles of London without paying the charge. So as you say, today foreign travel bans can be applied to football hooligans, paedophiles.......and you don't bat an eyelid. Next it will be anyone demmed to be a terrorist threat to another country. *What defines "a terrorist threat"? Ha ha, your Government is already one jump ahead of you. *It will mean what your Government tells you it means. And you won't bat an eyelid. Left your rubbish bin out on the wrong day? *Bang goes your foreign holiday....... And you think I'm kidding, right? Your dead Right, Mad Cliffy (with iffy legs). That's how the Brit Guvmint start it off. Everyone agrees...to start with...that's all that's needed to get it into the books for ever. The camera & kids bit is similar. It's reckoned that UK has the most cctv in the world & Scotland is the worst in UK. Right now there's a big yellow van and a guy outside my window ...drilling a hole into my room....aaaarrgg!!! |
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