Baby P, its mother and her boy friend are all unnamed (and unnameable,
it seems). What is the reason for that? Is the boy friend the father
of baby P?
--
He is not here; but far away
The noise of life begins again
And ghastly thro' the drizzling rain
On the bald street breaks the blank day.

Frederick Williams wrote:

Baby P, its mother and her boy friend are all unnamed (and unnameable,
it seems). What is the reason for that? Is the boy friend the father
of baby P?

The answer to the second question is no.

--
He is not here; but far away
The noise of life begins again
And ghastly thro' the drizzling rain
On the bald street breaks the blank day.

"Frederick Williams" wrote in message
...
Frederick Williams wrote:

Baby P, its mother and her boy friend are all unnamed (and unnameable,
it seems). What is the reason for that? Is the boy friend the father
of baby P?

The answer to the second question is no.

Indeed the father has been giving a satement today. I will, however, ask
why he didn't get involved earlier.

On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:22:10 +0000, Frederick Williams
wrote:

Baby P, its mother and her boy friend are all unnamed (and unnameable,
it seems). What is the reason for that? Is the boy friend the father
of baby P?

The names and adresses of the adults involved in the death of Baby P
and a photograph of his mother can be found he

www.dailysquib.co.uk/?c=117&a=1551

Svenne

"Mr X" wrote in message
...

"Frederick Williams" wrote in message
...
Frederick Williams wrote:

Baby P, its mother and her boy friend are all unnamed (and unnameable,
it seems). What is the reason for that? Is the boy friend the father
of baby P?

The answer to the second question is no.

Indeed the father has been giving a satement today. I will, however, ask
why he didn't get involved earlier.

His story seems to be that the defendants concealed the abuse not only from
the healthcare professionals, but from him. He has many supportive remarks
about the healthcare professionals.

I'd like to think that if I were in his position, a father seeing my young
son, I'd have picked up on any injuries or any apprehension about returning
to his mother. Still, people have happily sent their kids to boarding
schools for centuries.

On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 11:07:50 -0000, "The Todal"
wrote:


"Mr X" wrote in message
...

"Frederick Williams" wrote in message
...
Frederick Williams wrote:

Baby P, its mother and her boy friend are all unnamed (and unnameable,
it seems). What is the reason for that? Is the boy friend the father
of baby P?

The answer to the second question is no.

Indeed the father has been giving a satement today. I will, however, ask
why he didn't get involved earlier.

His story seems to be that the defendants concealed the abuse not only from
the healthcare professionals, but from him. He has many supportive remarks
about the healthcare professionals.

I'd like to think that if I were in his position, a father seeing my young
son, I'd have picked up on any injuries or any apprehension about returning
to his mother. Still, people have happily sent their kids to boarding
schools for centuries.

Surely no more than ten years or so.

On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 12:59:56 +0000, IanAl wrote:

On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 11:07:50 -0000, "The Todal"
wrote:


"Mr X" wrote in message
...

"Frederick Williams" wrote in message
...
Frederick Williams wrote:

Baby P, its mother and her boy friend are all unnamed (and unnameable,
it seems). What is the reason for that? Is the boy friend the father
of baby P?

The answer to the second question is no.

Indeed the father has been giving a satement today. I will, however, ask
why he didn't get involved earlier.

His story seems to be that the defendants concealed the abuse not only from
the healthcare professionals, but from him. He has many supportive remarks
about the healthcare professionals.

I'd like to think that if I were in his position, a father seeing my young
son, I'd have picked up on any injuries or any apprehension about returning
to his mother. Still, people have happily sent their kids to boarding
schools for centuries.

Surely no more than ten years or so.

From the BBC news :Old Bailey Judge Stephen Kramer told the
27-year-old mother and her 32-year-old boyfriend, who cannot be named
for legal reasons, and Jason Owen, 36, that they faced "substantial"
terms in prison.

Surprise surprise,
Its almost as if the judge is apoligising for having to jail them.
Lets see a real long realistic term of imprisonment to deter others,
lets say 25 years must be served.
But i bet they will be out in 6-7 years.

D

On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 18:17:03 +0000, Darcy wrote:

On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 12:59:56 +0000, IanAl wrote:

On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 11:07:50 -0000, "The Todal"
wrote:


"Mr X" wrote in message
...

"Frederick Williams" wrote in message
...
Frederick Williams wrote:

Baby P, its mother and her boy friend are all unnamed (and unnameable,
it seems). What is the reason for that? Is the boy friend the father
of baby P?

The answer to the second question is no.

Indeed the father has been giving a satement today. I will, however, ask
why he didn't get involved earlier.

His story seems to be that the defendants concealed the abuse not only from
the healthcare professionals, but from him. He has many supportive remarks
about the healthcare professionals.

I'd like to think that if I were in his position, a father seeing my young
son, I'd have picked up on any injuries or any apprehension about returning
to his mother. Still, people have happily sent their kids to boarding
schools for centuries.

Surely no more than ten years or so.

From the BBC news :Old Bailey Judge Stephen Kramer told the
27-year-old mother and her 32-year-old boyfriend, who cannot be named
for legal reasons, and Jason Owen, 36, that they faced "substantial"
terms in prison.

Surprise surprise,
Its almost as if the judge is apoligising for having to jail them.
Lets see a real long realistic term of imprisonment to deter others,
lets say 25 years must be served.
But i bet they will be out in 6-7 years.

I believe the maximum term they face is 14 years.

I expect her to get somewhere around 2 years and the men about 4 or 5.

Svenne

In message , Darcy
writes

From the BBC news :Old Bailey Judge Stephen Kramer told the 27-year-old
mother and her 32-year-old boyfriend, who cannot be named for legal
reasons, and Jason Owen, 36, that they faced "substantial" terms in
prison.

Surprise surprise,
Its almost as if the judge is apoligising for having to jail them.

What on earth makes you say that? It's utter garbage.
--
Richard Miller