On Nov 26, 11:11*pm, Turk182 wrote:
I drove into a Sainsbury car park today; there was a great difference
to the last occasion. *A giant screen was now in front of me as I
drove in and my registration number appeared on it, warning me to get
out within 3 hours. *The branch is on a trading estate, 3 miles from a
town. *I presume Sainsbury have stored my number somewhere.

The first thing that struck me was how clever they are, investing in
state of the art technology to police their customers and protect
their own interests (this car park is NEVER full) - this in contrast
to the way Sainsbury care for their customers who frequently
experience dirty, smelly toilets, uncleaned with paint peeling off the
walls. *They can buy invasive technology to spy on us, but they can't
afford a basic loo brush and some Domestos to keep their premises
clean. *I know two Sainsbury branches with smelly toilets (I also shop
there too in case you wondered if I just toured loos!).

The next thing that occured to me, is that if I drive in from the
trading estate into Sainsbury's Car Park having removed my number
plate and replaced it with a sign saying T E S C O, I presume this
will also be displayed across their big screen. *I don't know if it
would work with F U C K *O F F. *If I do replace my number plate on
the private road of a trading estate, am I in breach of the law?
Indeed, can I park a car in my own drive without a number plate
displayed? *Anyone know?

PS Does anyone want my Nectar points? *I've gone off them.

You can trade them for £2-50 /500 in kind at Argos.

You could also go the whole hog and transfer your business to Tesco.
I'm sure Sainsbugs wouldn't care.

Just out of interest what entitles you to more than 3 hours parking
provided at the expense of Sainsbugs or anybody else. Can't you put
your hand in your pocket and buy a day's or half a day's parking and
cease riding on the backs of others? Then perhaps customers might be
able to park conveniently. Why do you think supermarkets provide car
parks?

I know of a Sainsbugs and a Morrisons both with large car parks more
than adequate yet at times you struggle to find a vacant bay yet when
you get inside, the store is not unduly busy.

Th reason is that the car park is full of non-customers' cars. OK some
of them might use the store before leaving the car or after returning
to it. There are also those who use the car park as a public facility
whilst they are at work for example. I have even seen car sharers
rendezvous in these places.

Some people are very adept at passing their living costs onto somebody
else.

BTW I have never come across dirty public toilets in any supermarket.
They're trying to sell food for God's sake! In fact there is usually
an invitation posted for customers to inform a member of staff should
the facilities be found unsatisfactory.

If you want to see dirty and smelling toilets I would direct you to
those provided at public expense, Some of those can be disgusting
except where they are attended and a modest charge imposed on users,
Then they are usually very good.

Little in this world comes for free.

"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
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Turk182 wrote:
I drove into a Sainsbury car park today; there was a great difference
to the last occasion. A giant screen was now in front of me as I
drove in and my registration number appeared on it, warning me to get
out within 3 hours. The branch is on a trading estate, 3 miles from a
town. I presume Sainsbury have stored my number somewhere.

The first thing that struck me was how clever they are, investing in
state of the art technology to police their customers and protect
their own interests (this car park is NEVER full) - this in contrast
to the way Sainsbury care for their customers who frequently
experience dirty, smelly toilets, uncleaned with paint peeling off the
walls. They can buy invasive technology to spy on us, but they can't
afford a basic loo brush and some Domestos to keep their premises
clean. I know two Sainsbury branches with smelly toilets (I also shop
there too in case you wondered if I just toured loos!).

The next thing that occured to me, is that if I drive in from the
trading estate into Sainsbury's Car Park having removed my number
plate and replaced it with a sign saying T E S C O, I presume this
will also be displayed across their big screen. I don't know if it
would work with F U C K O F F. If I do replace my number plate on
the private road of a trading estate, am I in breach of the law?
Indeed, can I park a car in my own drive without a number plate
displayed? Anyone know?

PS Does anyone want my Nectar points? I've gone off them.

Turk182

I think you will find that the enforcement company will be paying
sainsburys, rather than the other way round.

IME of these deals it is usual for no money at all to change hands between
the parties.

Sainsbury's will be letting a third party keep all the "fines" in return for
policing the car park for free.

tim

"Mel Rowing" wrote in message
...

Some people are very adept at passing their living costs onto somebody
else.

Most of benefits culture Britain, in fact.

Why should I (a married man with no children) have to pay to subsidise
people who've *chosen* to have children and who receieve capacious handouts
(tax credits, child benefits, etc etc)?

Someone *please* explain?

On 27 Nov, 17:08, Mel Rowing wrote:
On Nov 26, 11:11*pm, Turk182 wrote:





I drove into a Sainsbury car park today; there was a great difference
to the last occasion. *A giant screen was now in front of me as I
drove in and my registration number appeared on it, warning me to get
out within 3 hours. *The branch is on a trading estate, 3 miles from a
town. *I presume Sainsbury have stored my number somewhere.

The first thing that struck me was how clever they are, investing in
state of the art technology to police their customers and protect
their own interests (this car park is NEVER full) - this in contrast
to the way Sainsbury care for their customers who frequently
experience dirty, smelly toilets, uncleaned with paint peeling off the
walls. *They can buy invasive technology to spy on us, but they can't
afford a basic loo brush and some Domestos to keep their premises
clean. *I know two Sainsbury branches with smelly toilets (I also shop
there too in case you wondered if I just toured loos!).

The next thing that occured to me, is that if I drive in from the
trading estate into Sainsbury's Car Park having removed my number
plate and replaced it with a sign saying T E S C O, I presume this
will also be displayed across their big screen. *I don't know if it
would work with F U C K *O F F. *If I do replace my number plate on
the private road of a trading estate, am I in breach of the law?
Indeed, can I park a car in my own drive without a number plate
displayed? *Anyone know?

PS Does anyone want my Nectar points? *I've gone off them.

You can trade them for £2-50 /500 in kind at Argos.

You could also go the whole hog and transfer your business to Tesco.
I'm sure Sainsbugs wouldn't care.

Just out of interest what entitles you to more than 3 hours parking
provided at the expense of Sainsbugs or anybody else. Can't you put
your hand in your pocket and buy a day's or half a day's parking and
cease riding on the backs of others? Then perhaps customers might be
able to park conveniently. Why do you think supermarkets provide car
parks?

I have no problem with Sainsbury enforcing a time limit on their
parking facility, I could do the same, I could wear a badge saying I
insist on being served in 5 minutes of joining the queue, and if I am
not served, I will leave all my food on the conveyer belt, we can all
talk tough. However, this is not the issue, I am deeply suspicious of
data collection systems and who gets access. I realise this can be
for the public good, but I also see that the use of similar devices in
other contexts have been used against the public interest and without
care or concern for our privacy.


I know of a Sainsbugs and a Morrisons both with large car parks more
than adequate yet at times you struggle to find a vacant bay yet when
you get inside, the store is not unduly busy.

Th reason is that the car park is full of non-customers' cars. OK some
of them might use the store before leaving the car or after returning
to it. There are also those who use the car park as a public facility
whilst they are at work for example. I have even seen car sharers
rendezvous in these places.

Some people are very adept at passing their living costs onto somebody
else.

BTW I have never come across dirty public toilets in any supermarket.
They're trying to sell food for God's sake! In fact there is usually
an invitation posted for customers to inform a member of staff should
the facilities be found unsatisfactory.

Oh well, perhaps I imagined the two Sainsbury branches I know where
the toilets honk like a sewer and are grubby and dingy; or perhaps you
are the PR guy for Sainsbury, having said that I DO like the company
generally and I have not suggested this is a widespread problem - it
could be an issue with the Area Manager.

If you want to see dirty and smelling toilets I would direct you to
those provided at public expense, Some of those can be disgusting
except

Can you give me the addresses please, you just never know.

Turk182

On 27 Nov, 20:14, "Craven Moorhead" wrote:
"Mel Rowing" wrote in message

...

Some people are very adept at passing their living costs onto somebody
else.

Most of benefits culture Britain, in fact.

Why should I (a married man with no children) have to pay to subsidise
people who've *chosen* to have children and who receieve capacious handouts
(tax credits, child benefits, etc etc)?

Someone *please* explain?

I can tell you, but I may have to make a charge for doing so.

Turk182

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 20:14:05 GMT, "Craven Moorhead"
wrote:


"Mel Rowing" wrote in message
...

Some people are very adept at passing their living costs onto somebody
else.

Most of benefits culture Britain, in fact.

Why should I (a married man with no children) have to pay to subsidise
people who've *chosen* to have children and who receieve capacious handouts
(tax credits, child benefits, etc etc)?

Someone *please* explain?

Who is going to pay for your old age pension if nobody has children?
--
Alex Heney, Global Villager
Why doesn't the Bat Computer ever crash?
To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 02:20:53 -0800 (PST), Toom Tabard
wrote:

I do most of my shopping at Sainsbury's and find their products, staff
and customer services are excellent.

You are the secret love child of the Sainsbury family AICMFP


Excellent and Sainsbury don't belong in the same universe let alone
the same sentence.

Manky bruised mishandled vegetables and fruit, overpriced everything,
surly staff, endless queues at understaffed checkouts, crap car parks
with dingbat Nazi signage and hopeless traffic flows, litter strewn
car parks, with trolleys dumped all over, customer services that can't
answer a simple question but instead give you four different email
'replies'

In the world of food retail Sainsbury's are a prime example of how not
to do it and how to alienate your previously loyal customers. I'd not
go there at all except its a complete pain in the ass to go to Tesco
or Waitrose.


--

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 20:14:05 GMT, "Craven Moorhead"
wrote:


"Mel Rowing" wrote in message
...

Some people are very adept at passing their living costs onto somebody
else.

Most of benefits culture Britain, in fact.

Why should I (a married man with no children) have to pay to subsidise
people who've *chosen* to have children and who receieve capacious handouts
(tax credits, child benefits, etc etc)?

Someone *please* explain?

Would someone explain why I, on a very low income, have to subsidise
parasites like rowing and lunn to a very much higher income just
because they were fortunate to lick the right anuses for a few years
and work for the state

On Nov 27, 9:59*pm, Alang wrote:

Would someone explain why I, on a very low income, have to subsidise
parasites like rowing and lunn to a very much higher income just
because they were fortunate to lick the right anuses for a few years
and work for the state

You are better equipped than me to determine why you are on a "very
low income".

You don't subsidise me.

I've paid taxes all my working life. I still pay taxes even though my
working life is now over. It's not beyond the realms of possibility
that my estate will pay taxes upon my death.

I have never drawn a pound's worth of state benefit in my life save
the universal child benefit.

So don't go calling me a parasite. It just doesn't wash.

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 21:47:00 +0000, Mike wrote:

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 02:20:53 -0800 (PST), Toom Tabard
wrote:

I do most of my shopping at Sainsbury's and find their products, staff
and customer services are excellent.

You are the secret love child of the Sainsbury family AICMFP


Excellent and Sainsbury don't belong in the same universe let alone
the same sentence.

Manky bruised mishandled vegetables and fruit, overpriced everything,
surly staff, endless queues at understaffed checkouts, crap car parks
with dingbat Nazi signage and hopeless traffic flows, litter strewn
car parks, with trolleys dumped all over, customer services that can't
answer a simple question but instead give you four different email
'replies'

In the world of food retail Sainsbury's are a prime example of how not
to do it and how to alienate your previously loyal customers. I'd not
go there at all except its a complete pain in the ass to go to Tesco
or Waitrose.

I use neither of those. Tesco trety their customers like **** anyway.
I shop at Sains for two things because they are better quality than
anywhere else locally. That is their french sticks which are light and
crispy on the crust unlike the ones elsewher which have all the
texture of an inner tube and their wholemeal pitta bread which has a
very good texture and taste.

Apart from that they are overpriced in comparison to Netto and Lidlor
asda