I drove into a Sainsbury car park today; there was a great difference
to the last occasion. A giant screen was now in front of me as I
drove in and my registration number appeared on it, warning me to get
out within 3 hours. The branch is on a trading estate, 3 miles from a
town. I presume Sainsbury have stored my number somewhere.

The first thing that struck me was how clever they are, investing in
state of the art technology to police their customers and protect
their own interests (this car park is NEVER full) - this in contrast
to the way Sainsbury care for their customers who frequently
experience dirty, smelly toilets, uncleaned with paint peeling off the
walls. They can buy invasive technology to spy on us, but they can't
afford a basic loo brush and some Domestos to keep their premises
clean. I know two Sainsbury branches with smelly toilets (I also shop
there too in case you wondered if I just toured loos!).

The next thing that occured to me, is that if I drive in from the
trading estate into Sainsbury's Car Park having removed my number
plate and replaced it with a sign saying T E S C O, I presume this
will also be displayed across their big screen. I don't know if it
would work with F U C K O F F. If I do replace my number plate on
the private road of a trading estate, am I in breach of the law?
Indeed, can I park a car in my own drive without a number plate
displayed? Anyone know?

PS Does anyone want my Nectar points? I've gone off them.

Turk182

Turk182 wrote:
I drove into a Sainsbury car park today; there was a great difference
to the last occasion. A giant screen was now in front of me as I
drove in and my registration number appeared on it, warning me to get
out within 3 hours. The branch is on a trading estate, 3 miles from a
town. I presume Sainsbury have stored my number somewhere.

The first thing that struck me was how clever they are, investing in
state of the art technology to police their customers and protect
their own interests (this car park is NEVER full) - this in contrast
to the way Sainsbury care for their customers who frequently
experience dirty, smelly toilets, uncleaned with paint peeling off the
walls. They can buy invasive technology to spy on us, but they can't
afford a basic loo brush and some Domestos to keep their premises
clean. I know two Sainsbury branches with smelly toilets (I also shop
there too in case you wondered if I just toured loos!).

The next thing that occured to me, is that if I drive in from the
trading estate into Sainsbury's Car Park having removed my number
plate and replaced it with a sign saying T E S C O, I presume this
will also be displayed across their big screen. I don't know if it
would work with F U C K O F F. If I do replace my number plate on
the private road of a trading estate, am I in breach of the law?
Indeed, can I park a car in my own drive without a number plate
displayed? Anyone know?

PS Does anyone want my Nectar points? I've gone off them.

Turk182

I think you will find that the enforcement company will be paying
sainsburys, rather than the other way round.

I have the same thing here in Lakeside, did you see it the other day? The
big b and q has added cameras on the the entries and exits.

Problem is that they don't work too well, many people drive through the b
and q entrance to reach costco and leave by the uncamera'd exit from there,
the b and q cameras don't always pick up the cars that just drive out
immediately, so many costco staff have been sent tickets for overstaying in
b and q.

I make a point of driving through as often as possible.

Mrcheerful

On 26 Nov, 23:22, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
Turk182 wrote:
I drove into a Sainsbury car park today; there was a great difference
to the last occasion. *A giant screen was now in front of me as I
drove in and my registration number appeared on it, warning me to get
out within 3 hours. *The branch is on a trading estate, 3 miles from a
town. *I presume Sainsbury have stored my number somewhere.

The first thing that struck me was how clever they are, investing in
state of the art technology to police their customers and protect
their own interests (this car park is NEVER full) - this in contrast
to the way Sainsbury care for their customers who frequently
experience dirty, smelly toilets, uncleaned with paint peeling off the
walls. *They can buy invasive technology to spy on us, but they can't
afford a basic loo brush and some Domestos to keep their premises
clean. *I know two Sainsbury branches with smelly toilets (I also shop
there too in case you wondered if I just toured loos!).

The next thing that occured to me, is that if I drive in from the
trading estate into Sainsbury's Car Park having removed my number
plate and replaced it with a sign saying T E S C O, I presume this
will also be displayed across their big screen. *I don't know if it
would work with F U C K *O F F. *If I do replace my number plate on
the private road of a trading estate, am I in breach of the law?
Indeed, can I park a car in my own drive without a number plate
displayed? *Anyone know?

PS Does anyone want my Nectar points? *I've gone off them.

Turk182

I think you will find that the enforcement company will be paying
sainsburys, rather than the other way round.

I have the same thing here in Lakeside, did you see it the other day? *The
big b and q has added cameras on the the entries and exits.

Problem is that they don't work too well, many people drive through the b
and q entrance to reach costco and leave by the uncamera'd exit from there,
the b and q cameras don't always pick up the cars that just drive out
immediately, so many costco staff have been sent tickets for overstaying in
b and q.

I make a point of driving through as often as possible.

Mrcheerful- Hide quoted text -

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Great. I wondered what would happen if you covered up your number
plates when leaving, whether this would make them think you were still
there several days later. After all, there is no contract to 'play
high tech' with them. They are toys and that's all, they can only
have legal siginificance if they make us aware of the terms BEFORE we
enter the car park - I presume!

Turk182

Turk182 wrote:
On 26 Nov, 23:22, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
Turk182 wrote:
I drove into a Sainsbury car park today; there was a great
difference to the last occasion. A giant screen was now in front of
me as I drove in and my registration number appeared on it, warning
me to get out within 3 hours. The branch is on a trading estate, 3
miles from a town. I presume Sainsbury have stored my number
somewhere.

The first thing that struck me was how clever they are, investing in
state of the art technology to police their customers and protect
their own interests (this car park is NEVER full) - this in contrast
to the way Sainsbury care for their customers who frequently
experience dirty, smelly toilets, uncleaned with paint peeling off
the walls. They can buy invasive technology to spy on us, but they
can't afford a basic loo brush and some Domestos to keep their
premises clean. I know two Sainsbury branches with smelly toilets
(I also shop there too in case you wondered if I just toured loos!).

The next thing that occured to me, is that if I drive in from the
trading estate into Sainsbury's Car Park having removed my number
plate and replaced it with a sign saying T E S C O, I presume this
will also be displayed across their big screen. I don't know if it
would work with F U C K O F F. If I do replace my number plate on
the private road of a trading estate, am I in breach of the law?
Indeed, can I park a car in my own drive without a number plate
displayed? Anyone know?

PS Does anyone want my Nectar points? I've gone off them.

Turk182

I think you will find that the enforcement company will be paying
sainsburys, rather than the other way round.

I have the same thing here in Lakeside, did you see it the other
day? The big b and q has added cameras on the the entries and exits.

Problem is that they don't work too well, many people drive through
the b and q entrance to reach costco and leave by the uncamera'd
exit from there, the b and q cameras don't always pick up the cars
that just drive out immediately, so many costco staff have been sent
tickets for overstaying in b and q.

I make a point of driving through as often as possible.

Mrcheerful- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Great. I wondered what would happen if you covered up your number
plates when leaving, whether this would make them think you were still
there several days later. After all, there is no contract to 'play
high tech' with them. They are toys and that's all, they can only
have legal siginificance if they make us aware of the terms BEFORE we
enter the car park - I presume!

Turk182

it would be quite often in the case I mention that people leave with their
number plate covered by timber or whatever sticking out the back. next time
I will pause in the car park, add a blanket to cover the number plate and
drive out into costco car park (so all on private property) just to see if I
get a ticket sent. there is no legal need to pay them as I understand it.

Mrcheerful

On 26 Nov, 23:51, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
Turk182 wrote:
On 26 Nov, 23:22, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
Turk182 wrote:
I drove into a Sainsbury car park today; there was a great
difference to the last occasion. A giant screen was now in front of
me as I drove in and my registration number appeared on it, warning
me to get out within 3 hours. The branch is on a trading estate, 3
miles from a town. I presume Sainsbury have stored my number
somewhere.

The first thing that struck me was how clever they are, investing in
state of the art technology to police their customers and protect
their own interests (this car park is NEVER full) - this in contrast
to the way Sainsbury care for their customers who frequently
experience dirty, smelly toilets, uncleaned with paint peeling off
the walls. They can buy invasive technology to spy on us, but they
can't afford a basic loo brush and some Domestos to keep their
premises clean. I know two Sainsbury branches with smelly toilets
(I also shop there too in case you wondered if I just toured loos!).

The next thing that occured to me, is that if I drive in from the
trading estate into Sainsbury's Car Park having removed my number
plate and replaced it with a sign saying T E S C O, I presume this
will also be displayed across their big screen. I don't know if it
would work with F U C K O F F. If I do replace my number plate on
the private road of a trading estate, am I in breach of the law?
Indeed, can I park a car in my own drive without a number plate
displayed? Anyone know?

PS Does anyone want my Nectar points? I've gone off them.

Turk182

I think you will find that the enforcement company will be paying
sainsburys, rather than the other way round.

I have the same thing here in Lakeside, did you see it the other
day? The big b and q has added cameras on the the entries and exits.

Problem is that they don't work too well, many people drive through
the b and q entrance to reach costco and leave by the uncamera'd
exit from there, the b and q cameras don't always pick up the cars
that just drive out immediately, so many costco staff have been sent
tickets for overstaying in b and q.

I make a point of driving through as often as possible.

Mrcheerful- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Great. *I wondered what would happen if you covered up your number
plates when leaving, whether this would make them think you were still
there several days later. *After all, there is no contract to 'play
high tech' with them. *They are toys and that's all, they can only
have legal siginificance if they make us aware of the terms BEFORE we
enter the car park - I presume!

Turk182

it would be quite often in the case I mention that people leave with their
number plate covered by timber or whatever sticking out the back. *next time
I will pause in the car park, add a blanket to cover the number plate and
drive out into costco car park (so all on private property) just to see if I
get a ticket sent. *there is no legal need to pay them as I understand it.

Mrcheerful- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Don't forget to pay for the blanket first :-)

"Turk182" wrote in message
...
.... If I do replace my number plate on
the private road of a trading estate, am I in breach of the law?

I can't be bothered to search out the exact provisions of the registration
regulations but, for the most part, any place that is open to the general
public to drive is covered by the same regulations as the public road.

Colin Bignell

On 26 Nov, 23:11, Turk182 wrote:
I drove into a Sainsbury car park today; there was a great difference
to the last occasion. *A giant screen was now in front of me as I
drove in and my registration number appeared on it, warning me to get
out within 3 hours. *The branch is on a trading estate, 3 miles from a
town. *I presume Sainsbury have stored my number somewhere.

The first thing that struck me was how clever they are, investing in
state of the art technology to police their customers and protect
their own interests (this car park is NEVER full) - this in contrast
to the way Sainsbury care for their customers who frequently
experience dirty, smelly toilets, uncleaned with paint peeling off the
walls. *They can buy invasive technology to spy on us, but they can't
afford a basic loo brush and some Domestos to keep their premises
clean. *I know two Sainsbury branches with smelly toilets (I also shop
there too in case you wondered if I just toured loos!).

The next thing that occured to me, is that if I drive in from the
trading estate into Sainsbury's Car Park having removed my number
plate and replaced it with a sign saying T E S C O, I presume this
will also be displayed across their big screen. *I don't know if it
would work with F U C K *O F F. *If I do replace my number plate on
the private road of a trading estate, am I in breach of the law?
Indeed, can I park a car in my own drive without a number plate
displayed? *Anyone know?

PS Does anyone want my Nectar points? *I've gone off them.

Turk182

It's a matter of perspective. Having been almost put off one local diy
superstore because the car park is filled with commuter parking, I've
always made it a point of expressing my appreciation to the staff when
I see they're taking action to solve the problem and ensure their own
customers are easily accommodated. It shows they are monitoring the
situation and showing some respect for their own customers. Would that
more businesses took such interest in customer services.
I do most of my shopping at Sainsbury's and find their products, staff
and customer services are excellent.

Toom

hi turk,

i think the law states that you only need a number plate when on a public road, in saying this though if the police see your car parked in sainsburys without a number plate they will without a doubt have something to say about it, i agree with you though that large supermarket chains should be spending thier money on something which benifits the customers (such as cleaning thier stinky toilets) rather than a system which can easily be tricked and is therefore pretty pointless

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Holiday Accidents lead to Holiday Claims

On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:11:56 -0800 (PST), Turk182 wrote:

I drove into a Sainsbury car park today; there was a great difference
to the last occasion. A giant screen was now in front of me as I
drove in and my registration number appeared on it, warning me to get
out within 3 hours. The branch is on a trading estate, 3 miles from a
town. I presume Sainsbury have stored my number somewhere.

Pi
The first thing that struck me was how clever they are, investing in
state of the art technology to police their customers and protect
their own interests (this car park is NEVER full) - this in contrast
to the way Sainsbury care for their customers who frequently
experience dirty, smelly toilets, uncleaned with paint peeling off the
walls. They can buy invasive technology to spy on us, but they can't
afford a basic loo brush and some Domestos to keep their premises
clean. I know two Sainsbury branches with smelly toilets (I also shop
there too in case you wondered if I just toured loos!).

They have probably been sold it by a private parking company scammer, who will then send out
unenforceable 'parking charge notices' and subsequent thretening letters deliberately designed to
fool people into thinking they are real parking tickets, which will fool enough gullible mugs into
paying them instead of filing alongside the Andrex to cover the investment.

In message , nightjar
writes

"Turk182" wrote in message
...
.... If I do replace my number plate on
the private road of a trading estate, am I in breach of the law?

I can't be bothered to search out the exact provisions of the registration
regulations but, for the most part, any place that is open to the general
public to drive is covered by the same regulations as the public road.

Colin Bignell

It would be useful if you could check this (if you know where the
definitive answer may be found). As I understand it, a vehicle driving
on a private road or area with general public access should be insured,
but I'm not sure whether it also needs to be taxed or have number
plates. If not, and the carpark is private property, Sainsburys would
have to stipulate that their display was a condition of entry (with an
appropriately draconian penalty for not doing so).
--
Ian