This is real justice. Iranian court orders that a man be blinded.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/7754756.stm

On Nov 28, 8:26*pm, Tar Baby wrote:
This is real justice. Iranian court orders that a man be blinded.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/7754756.stm

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As long as we're completely sure that he's the one who did it, I can't
argue with this.

"Tar Baby" wrote in message ...
This is real justice. Iranian court orders that a man be blinded.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/7754756.stm

Would you feel happier if he did 40 hours 'community service' instead?

"Tar Baby" wrote in message ...
This is real justice. Iranian court orders that a man be blinded.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/7754756.stm

As despicable & unforgivable the act was, I could not subscribe to such a
punishment. Not least because he was ordered to pay compensation to his
victim, but if he was not disabled by being blinded then surely it's not
beyond the wit of man to ensure that he was severely taxed* for the rest of
his life & that money used to compensate the victim. Such amount would
surely amount to far greater compensation than he is presumably able to
provide at his present age.

* Into penury would be just fine by me.

--
Joe Lee

On 29 Nov, 01:50, "Joe Lee" wrote:
"Tar Baby" wrote in ...
This is real justice. Iranian court orders that a man be blinded.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/7754756.stm

As despicable & unforgivable the act was, I could not subscribe to such a
punishment.
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Well, when Moses, Mohammed, etc. formulated these laws, they were
attempting to incorporate the Oriental concept of *karma* into
practical arrangements.... in other words, doing God's work for
him..... The concept of karma is an echo of a proven law of physics:
*to every action there is an equal and opposite reaction* , and so
life "reflects" back into our lives the exact equivalent of what we
give to other beings' lives [sometimes expressed as "what goes around
comes around"]. If you look at the world you will see this principle
operating, but usually in a half-sublte manner.
For example, my parents both died very painful and slow deaths, and my
sister has had a hell of a life, and I know the explanation.

That is why I have no argument with the sentence in that case, as long
as there is absolutely no doubt that he is the one who committed that
crime.

On Nov 28, 11:39*pm, Special Care
wrote:
On 29 Nov, 01:50, "Joe Lee" wrote: "Tar Baby" wrote in ...
This is real justice. Iranian court orders that a man be blinded.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/7754756.stm

As despicable & unforgivable the act was, I could not subscribe to such a
punishment.

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Well, when Moses, Mohammed, etc. formulated these laws, they were
attempting to incorporate the Oriental concept of *karma* into
practical arrangements.... in other words, doing God's work for
him..... The concept of karma is an echo of a proven law of physics:
*to every action there is an equal and opposite reaction* , and so
life "reflects" back into our lives the exact equivalent of what we
give to other beings' lives [sometimes expressed as "what goes around
comes around"]. If you look at the world you will see this principle
operating, but usually in a half-sublte manner.
For example, my parents both died very painful and slow deaths, and my
sister has had a hell of a life, and I know the explanation.

That is why I have no argument with the sentence in that case, as long
as there is absolutely no doubt that he is the one who committed that
crime.

I do not agree with the concept of "karma" - there are a lot of very
good people in the world that have horrible things done to them, and
then there are very bad people who do nasty things to other people and
get off scott free! That's why I prefer to take the Christian
approach of, "Do unto others as you would have done to yourself."
Think about it, Peter.

P.S. My ex-father-in law died of prostrate cancer when he was in his
70s. Towards the end he was in a great deal of pain - but he was the
nicest man in the world (nicer than my ex-husband). And yet, his wife
(my ex-mother-in-law) died just last year - mid 80's - quite suddenly
- had a stroke - no pain or suffereing at all, and yet she made so
many people around her suffer because of her evil nature. Explain
that one to me, Pete!

On 30 Nov, 03:31, Meta wrote:
On Nov 28, 11:39*pm, Special Care
..... The concept of karma is an echo of a proven law of physics:
*to every action there is an equal and opposite reaction* , and so
life "reflects" back into our lives the exact equivalent of what we
give to other beings' lives [sometimes expressed as "what goes around
comes around"]. If you look at the world you will see this principle
operating, but usually in a half-sublte manner.

That is why I have no argument with the sentence in that case, as long
as there is absolutely no doubt that he is the one who committed that
crime.

I do not agree with the concept of "karma" - there are a lot of very
good people in the world that have horrible things done to them, and
then there are very bad people who do nasty things to other people and
get off scott free! *That's why I prefer to take the Christian
approach of, "Do unto others as you would have done to yourself."
Think about it, Peter.

P.S. *My ex-father-in law died of prostrate cancer when he was in his
70s. Towards the end he was in a great deal of pain - but he was the
nicest man in the world (nicer than my ex-husband). *And yet, his wife
(my ex-mother-in-law) died just last year - mid 80's - quite suddenly
- had a stroke - no pain or suffereing at all, and yet she made so
many people around her suffer because of her evil nature. *Explain
that one to me, Pete!- Hide quoted text -

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It's complex. If there are a lot of good people in the world, the
question is - why are they so good.... and sadly, the answer usually
is that we only learn to be good people from adverse and painful
experiences, which in turn are reactions to our unethical behaviour in
the past...... so when you see a good person, for example, being
arrested and tortured for opposing an evil regime, as in Zimbabwe
today, it could be a case of finally "balancing the books," in the
sense that these people did something like that to others in a past
incarnation.

If you know God exists, and I don't *believe* it, I *know* it , then
you know justice exists too, in the final analysis.

The concept of one lifetime followed by heaven or hell/purgatory/limbo
doesn't stand up to scrutiny, because we all are badly flawed now, and
when we die, we still contain those imperfections, so how can we go to
heaven, carrying with us the same character flaws that are in us when
we die? It can't be. Only slow progress toward perfection through
innumerable incarnations makes sense.
And there's no chosen race and there are no self-righteous few who are
"saved" while all others are damned. Salvation is for all. Even Hitler
and Pol Pot and Bob Mugabe will be perfected or "saved" after many,
many more hard experiences in future incarnations.