Last Thursday the www.roguecustomer.com website was officially launched by
MP Tim Loughton at Westminster, London.
Nigel Gray and his Team have done a terrific job in putting the website
together and it is hoped that new legislation might be proposed and adopted
which will curb the actions of criminals who wilfully and deliberately seek
to defraud honest working men/women through non payment for goods and
services.
Does anyone on uk legal have any suggestions for changes to the existing
laws which might legally prevent crooked customers from defrauding goods and
service providers?

Colin Peters

http://colinpetersbd40jh.tripod.com

On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:28:03 -0000, "Colin Peters"
wrote:

Last Thursday the www.roguecustomer.com website was officially launched by
MP Tim Loughton at Westminster, London.
Nigel Gray and his Team have done a terrific job in putting the website
together and it is hoped that new legislation might be proposed and adopted
which will curb the actions of criminals who wilfully and deliberately seek
to defraud honest working men/women through non payment for goods and
services.
Does anyone on uk legal have any suggestions for changes to the existing
laws which might legally prevent crooked customers from defrauding goods and
service providers?

Colin Peters

http://colinpetersbd40jh.tripod.com


Until we treat everyone the same, we will have favoured rogues. Here
in the UK, we have favoured categories of people who can virtually "do
no wrong" and get away with all sorts of sharp practice.

1. Cyclists. If a cyclist is involved in any sort of accident, the
system treats him as a victim against the "nasty" motorist or the
"careless" pedestrian. Cyclists get away with running red lights,
riding on the footpath, using pedestrian crossings as though they were
pedestrians etc., etc. They even have special spaces at road junctions
to let them get ahead of the cars.

2. Kids. How often have you heard of kids, some as old as 17,
harrassing members of the public yet nothing ever happens to them.
Under 10 and they cannot be prosecuted for anything including murder
or rape. We cannot even identify the daughter-rapist of Sheffield
lest it upset the holy child.

3. The police. How often do you hear of individual officers being
held accountable for the atrocities they commit while on duty. When
was a policeman charged with, let alone convicted of, murder or
manslaughter after he shot and killed an innocent person "by mistake"?
The death penalty was abolished, Pierrpoint lost his job but the
police have taken his place and the death penalty restored without the
benefit of a court trial.

4. The Post Office under its various guises. Any lawyer will tell
you that it is pointless sueing the Post Office, Royal Mail,
Parcelforce etc as they are bound to win, no matter what. "The bearers
of the Queen's Mail can do no wrong".

5. Consumers. There are masses of consumer protection statutes in
force that the trader has virtually no rights left. This makes it
easy for rogue customers to get away with their rougery.

Most of these laws were introduced because the favoured few were seen
as vulnerable at some point in history. Times have changed but the
laws remain.

--
Alasdair.

Alasdair wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:28:03 -0000, "Colin Peters"
wrote:

Last Thursday the www.roguecustomer.com website was officially launched by
MP Tim Loughton at Westminster, London.
Nigel Gray and his Team have done a terrific job in putting the website
together and it is hoped that new legislation might be proposed and adopted
which will curb the actions of criminals who wilfully and deliberately seek
to defraud honest working men/women through non payment for goods and
services.
Does anyone on uk legal have any suggestions for changes to the existing
laws which might legally prevent crooked customers from defrauding goods and
service providers?

Colin Peters

http://colinpetersbd40jh.tripod.com


Until we treat everyone the same, we will have favoured rogues. Here
in the UK, we have favoured categories of people who can virtually "do
no wrong" and get away with all sorts of sharp practice.

1. Cyclists. If a cyclist is involved in any sort of accident, the
system treats him as a victim against the "nasty" motorist or the
"careless" pedestrian. Cyclists get away with running red lights,
riding on the footpath, using pedestrian crossings as though they were
pedestrians etc., etc. They even have special spaces at road junctions
to let them get ahead of the cars.

Motorist ignore the green marked cycle lanes and blatantly ignore a
30mph limit where I live. Speeds are more like 50-60 there, making it
very hazardous for cyclists. Many cyclist are also motorists when they
don't cycle, so it isn't always 'them and us'...

On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:00:03 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio
wrote:

Alasdair wrote in
:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:28:03 -0000, "Colin Peters"
wrote:

Last Thursday the www.roguecustomer.com website was officially
launched by MP Tim Loughton at Westminster, London.
Nigel Gray and his Team have done a terrific job in putting the
website together and it is hoped that new legislation might be
proposed and adopted which will curb the actions of criminals who
wilfully and deliberately seek to defraud honest working men/women
through non payment for goods and services.
Does anyone on uk legal have any suggestions for changes to the
existing laws which might legally prevent crooked customers from
defrauding goods and service providers?

Colin Peters

http://colinpetersbd40jh.tripod.com


Until we treat everyone the same, we will have favoured rogues. Here
in the UK, we have favoured categories of people who can virtually "do
no wrong" and get away with all sorts of sharp practice.

1. Cyclists. If a cyclist is involved in any sort of accident, the
system treats him as a victim against the "nasty" motorist or the
"careless" pedestrian. Cyclists get away with running red lights,
riding on the footpath, using pedestrian crossings as though they were
pedestrians etc., etc. They even have special spaces at road junctions
to let them get ahead of the cars.

2. Kids. How often have you heard of kids, some as old as 17,
harrassing members of the public yet nothing ever happens to them.
Under 10 and they cannot be prosecuted for anything including murder
or rape. We cannot even identify the daughter-rapist of Sheffield
lest it upset the holy child.

3. The police. How often do you hear of individual officers being
held accountable for the atrocities they commit while on duty. When
was a policeman charged with, let alone convicted of, murder or
manslaughter after he shot and killed an innocent person "by mistake"?
The death penalty was abolished, Pierrpoint lost his job but the
police have taken his place and the death penalty restored without the
benefit of a court trial.

4. The Post Office under its various guises. Any lawyer will tell
you that it is pointless sueing the Post Office, Royal Mail,
Parcelforce etc as they are bound to win, no matter what. "The bearers
of the Queen's Mail can do no wrong".

5. Consumers. There are masses of consumer protection statutes in
force that the trader has virtually no rights left. This makes it
easy for rogue customers to get away with their rougery.

Most of these laws were introduced because the favoured few were seen
as vulnerable at some point in history. Times have changed but the
laws remain.


Example of a 'rouge consumer please.

http://www.wilsonart.com/design/imag.../colormain.jpg

"Nomen Nescio" wrote in message
...
"Colin Peters" wrote in
:

Last Thursday the www.roguecustomer.com website was officially
launched by MP Tim Loughton at Westminster, London.
Nigel Gray and his Team have done a terrific job in putting the
website together and it is hoped that new legislation might be
proposed and adopted which will curb the actions of criminals who
wilfully and deliberately seek to defraud honest working men/women
through non payment for goods and services.
Does anyone on uk legal have any suggestions for changes to the
existing laws which might legally prevent crooked customers from
defrauding goods and service providers?

Colin Peters

http://colinpetersbd40jh.tripod.com



I take it the site will operate within the 'spririt of the' Data
Protection
Act and give those accused a right to reply?


I welcome and will publish any reply from anyone featured.