In message , Bob Mannix
writes
"Dead Paul" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:15:07 +0000, Sandi wrote:

[to legal & diy newsgroups]


I'm looking for some advice please.

I have a few hundred pages to photocopy and I need to anonymise the
text by blanking out names. I thought I would do it like this:

(1) photocopy the document
(2) use a black marker pen on chosen parts of text
(3) photocopy the marked page

Unfortunately, unless the marker ink is the same type of "black" and
is very opaque then the photocopy can sometimes pick up slivers of
lines which formed letters in the original text. This could depend on
which copier is used and if it needs a service. So it's not really
good enough.



One idea I had was to use a narrow black tape maybe 5 or 6 mm wide
over the text.

If I needed to get such tape then where could I get it? Ideally it
would be easy to tear so I could work through these documents quickly.
Maybe a paper tape rather than vinyl plastic.

Are there other effective but quick ways you have come across?

What happened to tippex?
Doesn't anyone use it anymore?

Elfin safety. They made it water based so (a) it doesn't work very well and
(b) there's no fun in sniffing it. Sales plummeted


Yellow Post-It notes (cut to size, as necessary).
--
Ian

If you want narrow black pvc tape, then an easy source are car
accessory shops. They keep tape of various widths that is used for
putting lines and stripes on cars.

As regards cropping out using software on a pc, I cannot think of any
scanning/priniting utility offhand where that is very easy and quick
to do.

Sandi wrote:
[to legal & diy newsgroups]


I'm looking for some advice please.

I have a few hundred pages to photocopy and I need to anonymise the
text by blanking out names. I thought I would do it like this:

(1) photocopy the document
(2) use a black marker pen on chosen parts of text
(3) photocopy the marked page

Unfortunately, unless the marker ink is the same type of "black" and
is very opaque then the photocopy can sometimes pick up slivers of
lines which formed letters in the original text. This could depend on
which copier is used and if it needs a service. So it's not really
good enough.



One idea I had was to use a narrow black tape maybe 5 or 6 mm wide
over the text.

If I needed to get such tape then where could I get it? Ideally it
would be easy to tear so I could work through these documents quickly.
Maybe a paper tape rather than vinyl plastic.

Are there other effective but quick ways you have come across?

Scan to the computer, but not OCR'd (because this induces errors)
Once all on the computer, digitally remove/blank out the data, then print.

(You can save the document in it's original form, and the edited form, in
case you need more copies, or different data removed later.

Toby...

"Tim S" wrote in message
...


Call me paranoid...

You are paranoid.

Scanning in black or white not grey scale will prevent image enhancement
from finding any invisible bits to work on.

On 1 Dec, 04:15, Sandi wrote:

I have a few hundred pages to photocopy and I need to anonymise the
text by blanking out names.

Scalpel. On a first gen photocopy if you don't want to hurt the
original. Nothing else is trustworthy - the track record of other
techniques, including stickers is very poor. Copying from double-sided
prints on thin paper is especially risky! You also need good
proofreading afterwards to check that none were missed.

There's also the problem of reading the missing text simply by
measuring the size of the hole left behind! (Yes, been done)

The NSA's redaction manual is a good read.
http://www.nsa.gov/notices/notic0000...-015R-2005.PDF

Sandi wrote:
[to legal & diy newsgroups]


I'm looking for some advice please.

I have a few hundred pages to photocopy and I need to anonymise the
text by blanking out names. I thought I would do it like this:

(1) photocopy the document
(2) use a black marker pen on chosen parts of text
(3) photocopy the marked page

Unfortunately, unless the marker ink is the same type of "black" and
is very opaque then the photocopy can sometimes pick up slivers of
lines which formed letters in the original text. This could depend on
which copier is used and if it needs a service. So it's not really
good enough.



One idea I had was to use a narrow black tape maybe 5 or 6 mm wide
over the text.

If I needed to get such tape then where could I get it? Ideally it
would be easy to tear so I could work through these documents quickly.
Maybe a paper tape rather than vinyl plastic.

Are there other effective but quick ways you have come across?


I use scan plus image editing software

Then print the amended scans.

Narrow black tape used to be what printed circuit people used to make
circuit masters. All done in software now.

If you can find someone to scan fast onto a CD, do it and hen simply
load into a program and blank electronically.

"Sandi" wrote in message
...
[to legal & diy newsgroups]


I'm looking for some advice please.

I have a few hundred pages to photocopy and I need to anonymise the
text by blanking out names. I thought I would do it like this:

(1) photocopy the document
(2) use a black marker pen on chosen parts of text
(3) photocopy the marked page

Unfortunately, unless the marker ink is the same type of "black" and
is very opaque then the photocopy can sometimes pick up slivers of
lines which formed letters in the original text. This could depend on
which copier is used and if it needs a service. So it's not really
good enough.



One idea I had was to use a narrow black tape maybe 5 or 6 mm wide
over the text.

If I needed to get such tape then where could I get it? Ideally it
would be easy to tear so I could work through these documents quickly.
Maybe a paper tape rather than vinyl plastic.

Are there other effective but quick ways you have come across?
Why not scan, and then 'cut' out the words with for example Photoshop ...

If you cut rather than just place a blocl of colour on top, it can't show
through.

On Dec 1, 5:05*am, "Joe Lee" wrote:
"Sandi" wrote in message

...



[to legal & diy newsgroups]

I'm looking for some advice please.

I have a few hundred pages to photocopy and I need to anonymise the
text by blanking out names. *I thought I would do it like this:

*(1) photocopy the document
*(2) use a black marker pen on chosen parts of text
*(3) photocopy the marked page

Unfortunately, unless the marker ink is the same type of "black" and
is very opaque then the photocopy can sometimes pick up slivers of
lines which formed letters in the original text. This could depend on
which copier is used and if it needs a service. *So it's not really
good enough.

One idea I had was to use a narrow black tape maybe 5 or 6 mm wide
over the text.

If I needed to get such tape then where could I get it? * Ideally it
would be easy to tear so I could work through these documents quickly.
Maybe a paper tape rather than vinyl plastic.

Are there other effective but quick ways you have come across?

I would either scan the pages using an Optical Character Recognition (OCR)
program & save them to a drive/disc, or pay a printshop to do it if that was
more cost effective.Then delete or substitute the text (using your PC) to
anonymise it & then print out the modified pages or go back to the printshop
& pay them to do it for you.

--
Joe Lee

Just don't do what the FIA did when there was the McLaren spy scandal
- issue a redacted pdf of the proceedings with some text highlighted
black to anonymise some names. When they published the pdf, all you
had to do was to highlight the blacked out words and you could read
the inverse!!

Matt

wrote in message
...
On Dec 1, 5:05 am, "Joe Lee" wrote:
"Sandi" wrote in message

...



[to legal & diy newsgroups]

I'm looking for some advice please.

I have a few hundred pages to photocopy and I need to anonymise the
text by blanking out names. I thought I would do it like this:

(1) photocopy the document
(2) use a black marker pen on chosen parts of text
(3) photocopy the marked page

Unfortunately, unless the marker ink is the same type of "black" and
is very opaque then the photocopy can sometimes pick up slivers of
lines which formed letters in the original text. This could depend on
which copier is used and if it needs a service. So it's not really
good enough.

One idea I had was to use a narrow black tape maybe 5 or 6 mm wide
over the text.

If I needed to get such tape then where could I get it? Ideally it
would be easy to tear so I could work through these documents quickly.
Maybe a paper tape rather than vinyl plastic.

Are there other effective but quick ways you have come across?

I would either scan the pages using an Optical Character Recognition (OCR)
program & save them to a drive/disc, or pay a printshop to do it if that
was
more cost effective.Then delete or substitute the text (using your PC) to
anonymise it & then print out the modified pages or go back to the
printshop
& pay them to do it for you.

--
Joe Lee

Just don't do what the FIA did when there was the McLaren spy scandal
- issue a redacted pdf of the proceedings with some text highlighted
black to anonymise some names. When they published the pdf, all you
had to do was to highlight the blacked out words and you could read
the inverse!!

Matt


Or electronically sending as a suposedly redacted Word document ,
has been done.

For printed redacting this was a fun excercise
in deciphering
http://www.legalbanter.co.uk/uk-lega...el-berlins-puz
zle-guardian-today.html
unfortunately the scanned version is no longer there,
or on wayback, so paper archives only

ps
What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles
and what Special Branch don't want you to know.
http://www.nutteing.chat.ru/dnapr.htm
or nutteingd in a search engine.

In message , Sandi
writes
[to legal & diy newsgroups]


I'm looking for some advice please.

I have a few hundred pages to photocopy and I need to anonymise the
text by blanking out names. I thought I would do it like this:

(1) photocopy the document
(2) use a black marker pen on chosen parts of text
(3) photocopy the marked page

Unfortunately, unless the marker ink is the same type of "black" and
is very opaque then the photocopy can sometimes pick up slivers of
lines which formed letters in the original text. This could depend on
which copier is used and if it needs a service. So it's not really
good enough.



One idea I had was to use a narrow black tape maybe 5 or 6 mm wide
over the text.

If I needed to get such tape then where could I get it? Ideally it
would be easy to tear so I could work through these documents quickly.

Tippex do a white paper tape especially for such purposes in various
widths

Look at any of the stationery sites such as Viking Direct

Maybe a paper tape rather than vinyl plastic.

Are there other effective but quick ways you have come across?



--
geoff