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Old December 1st 08, 04:15 AM posted to uk.legal,uk.d-i-y
Sandi
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I'm looking for some advice please.

I have a few hundred pages to photocopy and I need to anonymise the
text by blanking out names. I thought I would do it like this:

(1) photocopy the document
(2) use a black marker pen on chosen parts of text
(3) photocopy the marked page

Unfortunately, unless the marker ink is the same type of "black" and
is very opaque then the photocopy can sometimes pick up slivers of
lines which formed letters in the original text. This could depend on
which copier is used and if it needs a service. So it's not really
good enough.



One idea I had was to use a narrow black tape maybe 5 or 6 mm wide
over the text.

If I needed to get such tape then where could I get it? Ideally it
would be easy to tear so I could work through these documents quickly.
Maybe a paper tape rather than vinyl plastic.

Are there other effective but quick ways you have come across?


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Old December 1st 08, 05:05 AM posted to uk.legal,uk.d-i-y
Joe Lee[_3_]
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"Sandi" wrote in message
...
[to legal & diy newsgroups]


I'm looking for some advice please.

I have a few hundred pages to photocopy and I need to anonymise the
text by blanking out names. I thought I would do it like this:

(1) photocopy the document
(2) use a black marker pen on chosen parts of text
(3) photocopy the marked page

Unfortunately, unless the marker ink is the same type of "black" and
is very opaque then the photocopy can sometimes pick up slivers of
lines which formed letters in the original text. This could depend on
which copier is used and if it needs a service. So it's not really
good enough.



One idea I had was to use a narrow black tape maybe 5 or 6 mm wide
over the text.

If I needed to get such tape then where could I get it? Ideally it
would be easy to tear so I could work through these documents quickly.
Maybe a paper tape rather than vinyl plastic.

Are there other effective but quick ways you have come across?



















I would either scan the pages using an Optical Character Recognition (OCR)
program & save them to a drive/disc, or pay a printshop to do it if that was
more cost effective.Then delete or substitute the text (using your PC) to
anonymise it & then print out the modified pages or go back to the printshop
& pay them to do it for you.

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Joe Lee

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Old December 1st 08, 05:58 AM posted to uk.legal,uk.d-i-y
Pedt
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In message , at 04:15:07
on Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Sandi wibbled
[to legal & diy newsgroups]


I'm looking for some advice please.

I have a few hundred pages to photocopy and I need to anonymise the
text by blanking out names. I thought I would do it like this:

(1) photocopy the document
(2) use a black marker pen on chosen parts of text
(3) photocopy the marked page

Unfortunately, unless the marker ink is the same type of "black" and
is very opaque then the photocopy can sometimes pick up slivers of
lines which formed letters in the original text. This could depend on
which copier is used and if it needs a service. So it's not really
good enough.

One idea I had was to use a narrow black tape maybe 5 or 6 mm wide
over the text.

If I needed to get such tape then where could I get it? Ideally it
would be easy to tear so I could work through these documents quickly.
Maybe a paper tape rather than vinyl plastic.

Are there other effective but quick ways you have come across?


If you don't mind it appearing blank rather than blacked out[1] then use
a correction roller (aka eraser mouse) e.g. like those at
http://www.staples.co.uk/ENG/Catalog...ection+Rollers
Where I work we use them on a couple of hundred documents a week.

[1]And if you do want to show it black to say you've redacted something,
go over the document again with a black marker over the correction tape.

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Old December 1st 08, 07:53 AM posted to uk.legal,uk.d-i-y
Paul Nutteing (valid email address in post script )
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Sandi wrote in message
...
[to legal & diy newsgroups]


I'm looking for some advice please.

I have a few hundred pages to photocopy and I need to anonymise the
text by blanking out names. I thought I would do it like this:

(1) photocopy the document
(2) use a black marker pen on chosen parts of text
(3) photocopy the marked page

Unfortunately, unless the marker ink is the same type of "black" and
is very opaque then the photocopy can sometimes pick up slivers of
lines which formed letters in the original text. This could depend on
which copier is used and if it needs a service. So it's not really
good enough.



One idea I had was to use a narrow black tape maybe 5 or 6 mm wide
over the text.

If I needed to get such tape then where could I get it? Ideally it
would be easy to tear so I could work through these documents quickly.
Maybe a paper tape rather than vinyl plastic.

Are there other effective but quick ways you have come across?


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I just use gummed labels, dust the gum with
talcum powder to reduce the gumminess and
you can easily remove after copying or scanning
eg scanned-in example of mine
http://www.nutteing.chat.ru/fss2.gif
of a Forensic "Science" Service document

ps
What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles
and what Special Branch don't want you to know.
http://www.nutteing.chat.ru/dnapr.htm
or nutteingd in a search engine.

Valid email (remove 4 of the 5 dots)
Ignore any other apparent em address used to post this message -
it is defunct due to spam.



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Old December 1st 08, 08:07 AM posted to uk.legal,uk.d-i-y
Tim S
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Paul Nutteing (valid email address in post script ) coughed up some
electrons that declared:

Sandi wrote in message
...
[to legal & diy newsgroups]


I'm looking for some advice please.

I have a few hundred pages to photocopy and I need to anonymise the
text by blanking out names. I thought I would do it like this:

(1) photocopy the document
(2) use a black marker pen on chosen parts of text
(3) photocopy the marked page

Unfortunately, unless the marker ink is the same type of "black" and
is very opaque then the photocopy can sometimes pick up slivers of
lines which formed letters in the original text. This could depend on
which copier is used and if it needs a service. So it's not really
good enough.



One idea I had was to use a narrow black tape maybe 5 or 6 mm wide
over the text.

If I needed to get such tape then where could I get it? Ideally it
would be easy to tear so I could work through these documents quickly.
Maybe a paper tape rather than vinyl plastic.

Are there other effective but quick ways you have come across?


--


I just use gummed labels, dust the gum with
talcum powder to reduce the gumminess and
you can easily remove after copying or scanning
eg scanned-in example of mine
http://www.nutteing.chat.ru/fss2.gif
of a Forensic "Science" Service document

ps
What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles
and what Special Branch don't want you to know.
http://www.nutteing.chat.ru/dnapr.htm
or nutteingd in a search engine.

Valid email (remove 4 of the 5 dots)
Ignore any other apparent em address used to post this message -
it is defunct due to spam.



Personally I think the only surefire way is to copy the original, cut out
the words then copy again.

Anything that attempts to blank over the original leaves the chance that
image enhancement software might just be able to highlight the original
print. Black PVC tape (electrical) is probably pretty safe but if you
physically remove the redacted words, then no amount of clever post
processing will get them back.

Call me paranoid...

Cheers

Tim
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Old December 1st 08, 08:43 AM posted to uk.legal,uk.d-i-y
nightjar
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Default effective way of blanking out text for photocopying


"Sandi" wrote in message
...
[to legal & diy newsgroups]


I'm looking for some advice please.

I have a few hundred pages to photocopy and I need to anonymise the
text by blanking out names. I thought I would do it like this:

(1) photocopy the document
(2) use a black marker pen on chosen parts of text
(3) photocopy the marked page

Unfortunately, unless the marker ink is the same type of "black" and
is very opaque then the photocopy can sometimes pick up slivers of
lines which formed letters in the original text. This could depend on
which copier is used and if it needs a service. So it's not really
good enough.



One idea I had was to use a narrow black tape maybe 5 or 6 mm wide
over the text.

If I needed to get such tape then where could I get it? Ideally it
would be easy to tear so I could work through these documents quickly.
Maybe a paper tape rather than vinyl plastic.


It used to be possible to buy a black tape for direct masking of printed
circuit boards when etching them. It came in rolls of various widths, some
quite wide enough to mask text. It is a long time since I made PCBs that
way, I changed to photo etching many years ago, but electronics supplies may
well still sell the tape. I used to buy it from RS Components.

Colin Bignell


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Old December 1st 08, 08:58 AM posted to uk.legal,uk.d-i-y
Cicero
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Default effective way of blanking out text for photocopying

On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:15:07 +0000, Sandi wrote:

[to legal & diy newsgroups]


I'm looking for some advice please.

I have a few hundred pages to photocopy and I need to anonymise the
text by blanking out names. I thought I would do it like this:

(1) photocopy the document
(2) use a black marker pen on chosen parts of text
(3) photocopy the marked page

Unfortunately, unless the marker ink is the same type of "black" and
is very opaque then the photocopy can sometimes pick up slivers of
lines which formed letters in the original text. This could depend on
which copier is used and if it needs a service. So it's not really
good enough.



One idea I had was to use a narrow black tape maybe 5 or 6 mm wide
over the text.

If I needed to get such tape then where could I get it? Ideally it
would be easy to tear so I could work through these documents quickly.
Maybe a paper tape rather than vinyl plastic.

Are there other effective but quick ways you have come across?


=========================================
If you're prepared to photocopy several hundred pages *twice* you might
find it easier and less time-consuming to scan the pages into a word
processor using OCR (Optical character recognition) software. You would
then be able to use standard 'search and replace' to replace any names
with any other random set of characters or even hide the text with white
highlighting. You would also have a permanent record of your documents.

Cic.

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Windows shown the door
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Old December 1st 08, 09:11 AM posted to uk.legal,uk.d-i-y
Dead Paul
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On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:15:07 +0000, Sandi wrote:

[to legal & diy newsgroups]


I'm looking for some advice please.

I have a few hundred pages to photocopy and I need to anonymise the
text by blanking out names. I thought I would do it like this:

(1) photocopy the document
(2) use a black marker pen on chosen parts of text
(3) photocopy the marked page

Unfortunately, unless the marker ink is the same type of "black" and
is very opaque then the photocopy can sometimes pick up slivers of
lines which formed letters in the original text. This could depend on
which copier is used and if it needs a service. So it's not really
good enough.



One idea I had was to use a narrow black tape maybe 5 or 6 mm wide
over the text.

If I needed to get such tape then where could I get it? Ideally it
would be easy to tear so I could work through these documents quickly.
Maybe a paper tape rather than vinyl plastic.

Are there other effective but quick ways you have come across?


What happened to tippex?
Doesn't anyone use it anymore?

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Old December 1st 08, 09:23 AM posted to uk.legal,uk.d-i-y
Bob Mannix
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"Dead Paul" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:15:07 +0000, Sandi wrote:

[to legal & diy newsgroups]


I'm looking for some advice please.

I have a few hundred pages to photocopy and I need to anonymise the
text by blanking out names. I thought I would do it like this:

(1) photocopy the document
(2) use a black marker pen on chosen parts of text
(3) photocopy the marked page

Unfortunately, unless the marker ink is the same type of "black" and
is very opaque then the photocopy can sometimes pick up slivers of
lines which formed letters in the original text. This could depend on
which copier is used and if it needs a service. So it's not really
good enough.



One idea I had was to use a narrow black tape maybe 5 or 6 mm wide
over the text.

If I needed to get such tape then where could I get it? Ideally it
would be easy to tear so I could work through these documents quickly.
Maybe a paper tape rather than vinyl plastic.

Are there other effective but quick ways you have come across?


What happened to tippex?
Doesn't anyone use it anymore?


Elfin safety. They made it water based so (a) it doesn't work very well and
(b) there's no fun in sniffing it. Sales plummeted


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Bob Mannix
(anti-spam is as easy as 1-2-3 - not


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Old December 1st 08, 09:28 AM posted to uk.legal,uk.d-i-y
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Sandi wrote:
I have a few hundred pages to photocopy and I need to anonymise the
text by blanking out names. I thought I would do it like this:


(1) photocopy the document
(2) use a black marker pen on chosen parts of text
(3) photocopy the marked page


Postit thingies?

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