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Property - fence ownership details - where ?



 
 
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Old January 12th 07, 02:45 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
Daytona
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Default Property - fence ownership details - where ?

A fence at a property I own and rent out has blown down during the
storms. Are details of ownership of fences on the deeds/plan available
from Registry Trust online ?

Daytona

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Old January 12th 07, 04:05 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
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Daytona wrote:
A fence at a property I own and rent out has blown down during the
storms. Are details of ownership of fences on the deeds/plan available
from Registry Trust online ?

Daytona


Ownership of the fence various. It is often the practice in some parts
of the country that all boundaries are shared; in other parts of the
country you own the boundary on the left-hand side (as you look from
the front of the house).

The Land Registry documents don't usually mention this, but for the
sake of £3 you can download a copy and have a look. Otherwise you may
have to look at the original, old-fashioned deeds to find out.


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Old January 12th 07, 04:45 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
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Daytona wrote:

A fence at a property I own and rent out has blown down during the
storms. Are details of ownership of fences on the deeds/plan available
from Registry Trust online ?



On the outline map supplied with my house deeds, the boundaries that I
am liable to maintain are marked along that border with what looks a
small 'T' on my side of the fence.
If the neighbour is liable, the 'T' is on his side.
I have no idea if this is typical marking of boundaries.
Alan.
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Old January 12th 07, 06:15 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
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A.Lee wrote:
Daytona wrote:

A fence at a property I own and rent out has blown down during the
storms. Are details of ownership of fences on the deeds/plan available
from Registry Trust online ?



On the outline map supplied with my house deeds, the boundaries that I
am liable to maintain are marked along that border with what looks a
small 'T' on my side of the fence.
If the neighbour is liable, the 'T' is on his side.
I have no idea if this is typical marking of boundaries.
Alan.
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you could try here
http://www.boundary-problems.co.uk/mainindex.shtml


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Old January 13th 07, 10:35 AM posted to uk.legal.moderated
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"A.Lee" wrote in message
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Daytona wrote:

A fence at a property I own and rent out has blown down during the
storms. Are details of ownership of fences on the deeds/plan available
from Registry Trust online ?



On the outline map supplied with my house deeds, the boundaries that I
am liable to maintain are marked along that border with what looks a
small 'T' on my side of the fence.
If the neighbour is liable, the 'T' is on his side.
I have no idea if this is typical marking of boundaries.


It is. The file plan obtainable from HM Land Registry will indicate fence
ownership with T marks when it was shown in the information submitted when
the property was registered.

Chris R



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Old January 13th 07, 02:00 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
Peter Crosland
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Default Property - fence ownership details - where ?

A fence at a property I own and rent out has blown down during the
storms. Are details of ownership of fences on the deeds/plan
available from Registry Trust online ?



On the outline map supplied with my house deeds, the boundaries that
I am liable to maintain are marked along that border with what looks
a small 'T' on my side of the fence.
If the neighbour is liable, the 'T' is on his side.
I have no idea if this is typical marking of boundaries.


It is. The file plan obtainable from HM Land Registry will indicate
fence ownership with T marks when it was shown in the information
submitted when the property was registered.


Oh that it was so simple! Take a look at http://www.boundary-problems.co.uk/
as a starting point.

Peter Crosland




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Old January 13th 07, 02:40 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
ChrisR
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"Peter Crosland" wrote in message
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A fence at a property I own and rent out has blown down during the
storms. Are details of ownership of fences on the deeds/plan
available from Registry Trust online ?


On the outline map supplied with my house deeds, the boundaries that
I am liable to maintain are marked along that border with what looks
a small 'T' on my side of the fence.
If the neighbour is liable, the 'T' is on his side.
I have no idea if this is typical marking of boundaries.


It is. The file plan obtainable from HM Land Registry will indicate
fence ownership with T marks when it was shown in the information
submitted when the property was registered.


Oh that it was so simple! Take a look at
http://www.boundary-problems.co.uk/
as a starting point.

Great site, but I didn't see anything there inconsistent with what I said;
in fact is says the same thing with regard to T-marks.

Chris R



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Old January 13th 07, 03:50 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
Peter Crosland
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Default Property - fence ownership details - where ?

A fence at a property I own and rent out has blown down during the
storms. Are details of ownership of fences on the deeds/plan
available from Registry Trust online ?


On the outline map supplied with my house deeds, the boundaries
that I am liable to maintain are marked along that border with
what looks a small 'T' on my side of the fence.
If the neighbour is liable, the 'T' is on his side.
I have no idea if this is typical marking of boundaries.

It is. The file plan obtainable from HM Land Registry will indicate
fence ownership with T marks when it was shown in the information
submitted when the property was registered.


Oh that it was so simple! Take a look at
http://www.boundary-problems.co.uk/
as a starting point.

Great site, but I didn't see anything there inconsistent with what I
said; in fact is says the same thing with regard to T-marks.


The point I was trying to amke is that the T marks are only the starting
point and that the law relating to boundaries is often much more complex.

Peter Crosland




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Old January 13th 07, 04:00 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
ChrisR
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Default Property - fence ownership details - where ?


"Peter Crosland" wrote in message
...
A fence at a property I own and rent out has blown down during the
storms. Are details of ownership of fences on the deeds/plan
available from Registry Trust online ?


On the outline map supplied with my house deeds, the boundaries
that I am liable to maintain are marked along that border with
what looks a small 'T' on my side of the fence.
If the neighbour is liable, the 'T' is on his side.
I have no idea if this is typical marking of boundaries.

It is. The file plan obtainable from HM Land Registry will indicate
fence ownership with T marks when it was shown in the information
submitted when the property was registered.

Oh that it was so simple! Take a look at
http://www.boundary-problems.co.uk/
as a starting point.

Great site, but I didn't see anything there inconsistent with what I
said; in fact is says the same thing with regard to T-marks.


The point I was trying to amke is that the T marks are only the starting
point and that the law relating to boundaries is often much more complex.

Peter Crosland

The OP wasn't asking about location of boundaries - only about ownership of
fences. If there are T-marks on the Land Registry plans, that is pretty
conclusive unless there is strong evidence that something else has happened
on the ground. Of course there may be no T-marks...

Chris R



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Old January 13th 07, 05:15 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
Daytona
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On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:05:03 +0000, "Tommo"
wrote:

The Land Registry documents don't usually mention this, but for the
sake of £3 you can download a copy and have a look. Otherwise you may
have to look at the original, old-fashioned deeds to find out.


Thanks - it's not on the plan - is a full version of the deeds
available from the land registry ? Property built in 1995 and I
purchased in 1999.

Daytona

 




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