Can anyone explain how to get access to CCTV footage. My car was
parked in a car park at a local activities centre on saturday. During
the time it was parked another vehicle collided with it and drove away
without leaving details. We kno there is CCTV footage which will
identify the vehicle. The Activities centre will only release the
footage to the Police and the Police refuse to look at it saying it is
up to us and the centre.

fred (fred ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

Can anyone explain how to get access to CCTV footage.

Ask the people who run the cameras.

We kno there is CCTV footage which will identify the vehicle.

How?

The Activities centre will only release the footage to the Police

Not hugely surprised. "Data protection act, Sir"

and the Police refuse to look at it saying it is up to us and the
centre.

Not hugely surprised. "Civil matter, Sir"

There y'go, then. Impasse. Pass all that information onto your insurance
with your claim, if you're making one.

How bad's the damage?

fred wrote:
Can anyone explain how to get access to CCTV footage. My car was
parked in a car park at a local activities centre on saturday. During
the time it was parked another vehicle collided with it and drove away
without leaving details. We kno there is CCTV footage which will
identify the vehicle. The Activities centre will only release the
footage to the Police and the Police refuse to look at it saying it is
up to us and the centre.


Sounds like you need to make a complaint to the Police. They need to
investigate the crime that was committed when the person drove away from
the accident (was the damage so bad that the other driver would have
known about it?).

fred wrote in news:1ccf7653-7b3f-410c-b19b-
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Can anyone explain how to get access to CCTV footage. My car was
parked in a car park at a local activities centre on saturday. During
the time it was parked another vehicle collided with it and drove away
without leaving details. We kno there is CCTV footage which will
identify the vehicle. The Activities centre will only release the
footage to the Police and the Police refuse to look at it saying it is
up to us and the centre.

Make a request to their data protection person under the DPA. Give them
the date and time of the accident, and enough information to identify you
and your car.

You might need to provide ID to prove that you are you, and your car is
yours. And you might need to provide a fee.

The Office of the information commissioner has more information.

On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:20:19 +0000, bealoid wrote:

fred wrote in news:1ccf7653-7b3f-410c-b19b-
:

Can anyone explain how to get access to CCTV footage. My car was parked
in a car park at a local activities centre on saturday. During the time
it was parked another vehicle collided with it and drove away without
leaving details. We kno there is CCTV footage which will identify the
vehicle. The Activities centre will only release the footage to the
Police and the Police refuse to look at it saying it is up to us and
the centre.

Make a request to their data protection person under the DPA. Give them
the date and time of the accident, and enough information to identify
you and your car.

You might need to provide ID to prove that you are you, and your car is
yours. And you might need to provide a fee.

The Office of the information commissioner has more information.

I'm not the OP, just curious...

If they have the evidence on CCTV but the Police refuse to get involved,
can they (the leisure centre) legitimately refuse to supply the CCTV at
all? I would think they might just be paranoid about getting dragged into
it all. They may also have a malfunctioning CCTV system and not want to
admit it...

Strange that the Police won't get involved in a fail-to-report -
especially when it might actually be an easy enough one to get strong
evidence for.

PCPaul wrote:
Strange that the Police won't get involved in a fail-to-report -
especially when it might actually be an easy enough one to get strong
evidence for.

I understood that it happened in a leisure centre car park, which would
mean that it didn't happen "on a road".

--
Dave N

N.B. Mail to nospam will be rejected. The "Reply-To" does work.

On Feb 6, 1:05*am, Owain wrote:
PCPaul wrote:
Make a request to their data protection person under the DPA. *Give them
the date and time of the accident, and enough information to identify
you and your car.
If they have the evidence on CCTV but the Police refuse to get involved,
can they (the leisure centre) legitimately refuse to supply the CCTV at
all?

IANAL. I think "no"; because they are obliged to respond to a Subject
Access Request. As part of this will involve blurring out information
not relating to the Subject, ie the other vehicles, this might actually
not be as helpful as would be thought.

I would think they might just be paranoid about getting dragged into
it all. They may also have a malfunctioning CCTV system and not want to
admit it...

That might be another breach of Data Protection, if the data being
stored is not accurate.

Owain

The link here only gives a synopsis of the show, basically give a
tenner and the time you were there and they have to give you the
footage. http://www.markthomasinfo.com/info/series1.asp the program
was brilliant.

"Dave N" wrote in message
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PCPaul wrote:
Strange that the Police won't get involved in a fail-to-report -
especially when it might actually be an easy enough one to get strong
evidence for.

I understood that it happened in a leisure centre car park, which would
mean that it didn't happen "on a road".


I read a couple of cases about a year ago where some insurance companies
wouldn't pay out because of the accident happening in a private car park -
they claimed that the insurance is only covered on a public highway. In one
of the cases the insurance company won because of the car being in a
"parking bay". However in the other case the insurance company lost - the
driver went up a kerb and hit someone (again inside the private car park).
IIRC it was said in these cases that the road traffic act extends to private
car parks where the public have unhindered access.

I can't give references as I said it was about a year ago but i'll have a
look and see if I can find them.
IANAL

- Paul

"Paul H" wrote in message
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"Dave N" wrote in message
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PCPaul wrote:
Strange that the Police won't get involved in a fail-to-report -
especially when it might actually be an easy enough one to get strong
evidence for.

I understood that it happened in a leisure centre car park, which would
mean that it didn't happen "on a road".


I read a couple of cases about a year ago where some insurance companies
wouldn't pay out because of the accident happening in a private car park -
they claimed that the insurance is only covered on a public highway. In
one
of the cases the insurance company won because of the car being in a
"parking bay". However in the other case the insurance company lost - the
driver went up a kerb and hit someone (again inside the private car park).
IIRC it was said in these cases that the road traffic act extends to
private
car parks where the public have unhindered access.

I can't give references as I said it was about a year ago but i'll have a
look and see if I can find them.
IANAL

You may be thinking of Cutter.

http://www.publications.parliament.u...2/clarke01.htm

I have a vague memory that the Road Traffic Act was then amended so that
insurance policies do cover accidents in car parks, but I'm not sure if I'm
right.

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"Paul H" wrote in message
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"Dave N" wrote in message
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PCPaul wrote:
Strange that the Police won't get involved in a fail-to-report -
especially when it might actually be an easy enough one to get strong
evidence for.

I understood that it happened in a leisure centre car park, which would
mean that it didn't happen "on a road".


I read a couple of cases about a year ago where some insurance companies
wouldn't pay out because of the accident happening in a private car
park -
they claimed that the insurance is only covered on a public highway. In
one
of the cases the insurance company won because of the car being in a
"parking bay". However in the other case the insurance company lost - the
driver went up a kerb and hit someone (again inside the private car
park).
IIRC it was said in these cases that the road traffic act extends to
private
car parks where the public have unhindered access.

I can't give references as I said it was about a year ago but i'll have a
look and see if I can find them.
IANAL

You may be thinking of Cutter.

http://www.publications.parliament.u...2/clarke01.htm

I have a vague memory that the Road Traffic Act was then amended so that
insurance policies do cover accidents in car parks, but I'm not sure if
I'm
right.

Now I have checked: the original s143 of the RTA required you to be insured
for accidents on "a road" and the phrase "or other public place" was added
by regulations in 2000.