I am getting married next month and will be taking my Husband's name.
My children both have their father's name (my ex husband)which I would
like them to keep. Will it cause problems travelling with children
with a different surname to me on the passport? If so, is there any
way around this ie hyphonating the name so they have my surname and
their father's surname? What are the legal implications and would I
need their father's permission?

In message
, at
09:10:04 on Mon, 11 Feb 2008, Squeaks
remarked:
I am getting married next month and will be taking my Husband's name.
My children both have their father's name (my ex husband)which I would
like them to keep. Will it cause problems travelling with children
with a different surname to me on the passport? If so, is there any
way around this ie hyphonating the name so they have my surname and
their father's surname? What are the legal implications and would I
need their father's permission?

Children travelling on a parent's passport is a somewhat out of date
concept, they should have their own.
--
Roland Perry

"Squeaks" wrote in message
...
I am getting married next month and will be taking my Husband's name.
My children both have their father's name (my ex husband)which I would
like them to keep. Will it cause problems travelling with children
with a different surname to me on the passport? If so, is there any
way around this ie hyphonating the name so they have my surname and
their father's surname? What are the legal implications and would I
need their father's permission?

Yes, you must get written consent in case you are challenged...

On Feb 11, 10:40*am, Roland Perry wrote:
In message
, at
09:10:04 on Mon, 11 Feb 2008, Squeaks
remarked:

I am getting married next month and will be taking my Husband's name.
My children both have their father's name (my ex husband)which I would
like them to keep. Will it cause problems travelling with children
with a different surname to me on the passport? If so, is there any
way around this ie hyphonating the name so they have my surname and
their father's surname? What are the legal implications and would I
need their father's permission?

Children travelling on a parent's passport is a somewhat out of date
concept, they should have their own.
--
Roland Perry

They do have their own passports, but their names will be different to
mine, so as far as the authorities are concerned, I could be leaving
the Country with anyone's kids.

On Feb 11, 9:10*am, Squeaks wrote:
I am getting married next month and will be taking my Husband's name.
My children both have their father's name (my ex husband)which I would
like them to keep. Will it cause problems travelling with children
with a different surname to me on the passport? If so, is there any
way around this ie hyphonating the name so they have my surname and
their father's surname? What are the legal implications and would I
need their father's permission?

You don't put children on your passport any more, they have their
own.

but to answer the question from my own experience: yes it migth cause
a minor difficulty.

My wife kept using her maiden name after we married, but our (2 year
old) daughter has my surname. This means that their two passports
have different surnames and no obvious link. She was stopped entering
the UK by the iimmigration official who, quite reasonably, wanted an
explanation of how the child was connected to her.

The simplest solution seems to be to carry the marriage certificate or
child's birth certificate so that a link can be established between
the two surnames.

Robert

On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:20:14 +0000, RobertL
wrote:

My wife kept using her maiden name after we married, but our (2 year
old) daughter has my surname. This means that their two passports
have different surnames and no obvious link. She was stopped entering
the UK by the iimmigration official who, quite reasonably, wanted an
explanation of how the child was connected to her.

I'm not at all sure that this behaviour by the immigration official
was reasonable. It's not uncommon nowadays for a married woman to
choose to keep her own name and for children to be given one or other
of the parents' names. My experience is that this practice is
becoming more widespread. Thus it's likely that an increasing number
of mothers/fathers/children will have different names.

Mike.

On Feb 11, 12:45*pm, Mike wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:20:14 +0000, RobertL
wrote:

My wife kept using her maiden name after we married, but our (2 year
old) daughter has my surname. *This means that their two passports
have different surnames and no obvious link. *She was stopped entering
the UK by the iimmigration official who, quite reasonably, wanted an
explanation of how the child was connected to her.

I'm not at all sure that this behaviour by the immigration official
was reasonable. *It's not uncommon nowadays for a married woman to
choose to keep her own name and for children to be given one or other
of the parents' names. *My experience is that this practice is
becoming more widespread. *Thus it's likely that an increasing number
of mothers/fathers/children will have different names.

Mike.

But if the immigration officials let people through with children with
different names, anyone could therefore take your child and leave the
country. It is common that people have different names to their
children, but so is the trafficking of children, therefore the
immigration official was doing his/her job properly.

On Feb 11, 12:45*pm, Mike wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:20:14 +0000, RobertL
wrote:

My wife kept using her maiden name after we married, but our (2 year
old) daughter has my surname. *This means that their two passports
have different surnames and no obvious link. *She was stopped entering
the UK by the iimmigration official who, quite reasonably, wanted an
explanation of how the child was connected to her.

I'm not at all sure that this behaviour by the immigration official
was reasonable. *It's not uncommon nowadays for a married woman to
choose to keep her own name and for children to be given one or other
of the parents' names. *My experience is that this practice is
becoming more widespread. *Thus it's likely that an increasing number
of mothers/fathers/children will have different names.

Mike.

Do I need the fathers consent to hyphernate the surname? Is this done
by Deed poll?

In message
, at
10:20:14 on Mon, 11 Feb 2008, RobertL remarked:
The simplest solution seems to be to carry the marriage certificate or
child's birth certificate so that a link can be established between
the two surnames.

That'll be one of those modern birth certificates that say at the bottom
"this is not proof of identity", I suppose??
--
Roland Perry

In message
, at
12:15:07 on Mon, 11 Feb 2008, Squeaks
remarked:
But if the immigration officials let people through with children with
different names, anyone could therefore take your child and leave the
country. It is common that people have different names to their
children, but so is the trafficking of children, therefore the
immigration official was doing his/her job properly.

When they introduced separate UK passports for children the main risk
they *claimed* to be averting was the abduction of children by one
parent, without the permission of the other.

They seemed to believe that the parent with custody would keep the
childrens' passports in a safe place, so if the other (estranged) parent
wanted to run away with the children, they could not be taken
overseas[1] as a result of having an entry in that estranged parent's
passport.

If that is their threat model, then having paperwork that proves that
the estranged parent is a true parent of the children, doesn't help *at
all*.

Meanwhile, it is my understanding that passports for children under 15
[cite required] have to be signed by a parent (not the child). That's a
quick way to ensure that the parent and child are "connected",
especially if the parent with custody ensures they are the one who
signed.

The absence of an official scheme to link passports of one individual to
another (eg parent/child)[2] says to me that there's no perceived need
for such a thing.

[1] Which of course begs the question of how many such 'abductions'
involve overseas trips.

[2] Which would be trivially easy because passport applications for
children have to quote the parent's passport number.
--
Roland Perry