In message ,
mert1639 writes

Very little trade would be lost seeing as most owners would just tie up
their animals outside. I think there are very few dog-friendly POs, except
perhaps in very remote locations (which have probably been closed now).

I'm a sub postmaster in a rural location (NE Scotland), and the PO is
still open. Well, just about. Yes, dogs are welcome, but I do worry
slightly, sometimes. Most owners are responsible, and keep their dog on
a short lead, whereas others don't, and dogs do have a habit of
investigating anyone else in the PO. Most people don't mind, but there
will come a time when someone who just doesn't like dogs will complain.
You can't please all of the people all of the time ...
--
Graeme

"David J" wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:10:05 +0100, "mert1639"
wrote:


"David J" wrote in message
. ..

But this is not a 'private shop cum post office'.. It is a Post
Office plus sorting office owned by the Post Office. Staffed by PO
employees.

Maybe the PO have a bye-law?

Why would the PO need a bye-law? Just beacuse it's owned by the PO
doesn't
make it any less private property.

So if it not corporate policy, it must be up to the individual
postmaster to make up what rules he feels like about the use of the
premises...?

Post Offices are now run by a limited company, so they could have a
corporate policy without it being a bye-law

Colin Bignell

On 24 Jul, 01:25, David J wrote:

So if it not corporate policy, it must be up to the individual
postmaster to make up what rules he feels like about the use of the
premises...?

Given that many Post Offices are sort-of franchises, that would seem
within his remit.

Neil

David J typed:
Our local Post Office has a small 'Dogs Not Allowed' sign on it's
front door.

I can understand this where food & drink is for sale, or is being
consumed - Health & Safety rules, etc. But this is just a Post Office
with a tiled floor..

Is this just a jobsworth flaunting his power, or is there a valid law
in operation here?

Having read the thread, and replied, I'm just wondering if you have an issue
with the PO for this?

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In article , David J
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Maybe the PO have a bye-law?

Maybe it is to avoid problems with the sorting office cat?

(Certainly, in the past, the GPO had official cats 'on the payroll' to
prevent mice from nibbling the mail)

Grin My cat enjoys sniffing around the sorting office, but I don't
think he has caught anything in there, yet.

There has been discussion regarding the PO, and whether or not it is
owned by the PO, whether the staff are PO employees etc. There are two
types of PO. Crown offices are owned by the PO - the business, the
premises, the staff. Staff will be a manager and others, all direct
employees of PO Limited.

A sub post office is owned by the sub postmaster, who provides the
premises to PO Ltd. The vast majority of sub postmasters are self
employed. Any staff are employees of the sub postmaster, not PO Ltd.
A sub PO may or may not have a delivery office attached, for Royal Mail
use. Note, these are delivery offices, not sorting offices, even though
mail may be sorted, in a delivery office. The postmen are direct
employees of Royal Mail. The premises are provided by the sub PO to PO
Limited, who then provide them to Royal Mail. There are no formal
leases, as such.

--
Graeme

On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:45:07 +0100, "Dogpoop"
wrote:

David J typed:
Our local Post Office has a small 'Dogs Not Allowed' sign on it's
front door.

I can understand this where food & drink is for sale, or is being
consumed - Health & Safety rules, etc. But this is just a Post Office
with a tiled floor..

Is this just a jobsworth flaunting his power, or is there a valid law
in operation here?

Having read the thread, and replied, I'm just wondering if you have an issue
with the PO for this?

Of course I have an issue - I was recently told to remove my dog from
the PO by a middle-aged **** wearing an earing.... Later in the week
I watched him chatting to a 'mate' at the counter who had - yes, a
dog!


You pondered.

"If a dog does have an accident and someone slips on it before it's
cleared up who's to blame? Who will pay the compensation which will
almost certainly be sought?"

Presumably the dog owner. Who is responsible if that happens on the
pavement? Not the LA, I'm sure.

"David J" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:45:07 +0100, "Dogpoop"
wrote:

David J typed:
Our local Post Office has a small 'Dogs Not Allowed' sign on it's
front door.

I can understand this where food & drink is for sale, or is being
consumed - Health & Safety rules, etc. But this is just a Post Office
with a tiled floor..

Is this just a jobsworth flaunting his power, or is there a valid law
in operation here?

Having read the thread, and replied, I'm just wondering if you have an
issue
with the PO for this?

Of course I have an issue - I was recently told to remove my dog from
the PO by a middle-aged **** wearing an earing.... Later in the week
I watched him chatting to a 'mate' at the counter who had - yes, a
dog!

Then I'd done one of three things:
(a) stop using that PO and go elsewhere.
(b) find out if the bloke in question was the postmater or not. If he
wasn't you could try getting in touch with the postmaster
(c) write to the head office of Post Office Limited and see what they say,
although I suspect they'd just reffer you the the postmaster.

On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:35:04 +0100, "mert1639"
wrote:


"David J" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:45:07 +0100, "Dogpoop"
wrote:

David J typed:
Our local Post Office has a small 'Dogs Not Allowed' sign on it's
front door.

I can understand this where food & drink is for sale, or is being
consumed - Health & Safety rules, etc. But this is just a Post Office
with a tiled floor..

Is this just a jobsworth flaunting his power, or is there a valid law
in operation here?

Having read the thread, and replied, I'm just wondering if you have an
issue
with the PO for this?

Of course I have an issue - I was recently told to remove my dog from
the PO by a middle-aged **** wearing an earing.... Later in the week
I watched him chatting to a 'mate' at the counter who had - yes, a
dog!

Then I'd done one of three things:
(a) stop using that PO and go elsewhere.
(b) find out if the bloke in question was the postmater or not. If he
wasn't you could try getting in touch with the postmaster
(c) write to the head office of Post Office Limited and see what they say,
although I suspect they'd just reffer you the the postmaster.



Hi - as it happens, since my original post, I have just done (c),
already knowing (b).


I got this reply. Well, at least I know now.

Dear Mr ...

Thank you for your email.

Unfortunately it is not Post Office Ltd policy to allow any dogs
except guide dogs into Post Office branches.

If we can be of any further assistance please do not hesitate to
contact us again. Please reply via the website www.postoffice.co.uk
as a reply sent to any other email address will not receive a
response.

If you need any further help with Post Office® products and services,
you can call 0845 722 33 44 between 8.15 am and 6 pm Monday to Friday,
and 8.30 am to 5.30 pm on Saturday. You can also access information
at www.postoffice.co.uk, the official Post Office® website.

Kind Regards

Yvonne Leadbeater

Customer Service Advisor.

Telephone: 08457 22 33 44

Textphone : 08457 22 33 55 (For the Deaf and Hard of Hearing)

"David J" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:35:04 +0100, "mert1639"
wrote:


"David J" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:45:07 +0100, "Dogpoop"
wrote:

David J typed:
Our local Post Office has a small 'Dogs Not Allowed' sign on it's
front door.

I can understand this where food & drink is for sale, or is being
consumed - Health & Safety rules, etc. But this is just a Post Office
with a tiled floor..

Is this just a jobsworth flaunting his power, or is there a valid law
in operation here?

Having read the thread, and replied, I'm just wondering if you have an
issue
with the PO for this?

Of course I have an issue - I was recently told to remove my dog from
the PO by a middle-aged **** wearing an earing.... Later in the week
I watched him chatting to a 'mate' at the counter who had - yes, a
dog!

Then I'd done one of three things:
(a) stop using that PO and go elsewhere.
(b) find out if the bloke in question was the postmater or not. If he
wasn't you could try getting in touch with the postmaster
(c) write to the head office of Post Office Limited and see what they say,
although I suspect they'd just reffer you the the postmaster.



Hi - as it happens, since my original post, I have just done (c),
already knowing (b).


I got this reply. Well, at least I know now.

Dear Mr ...

Thank you for your email.

Unfortunately it is not Post Office Ltd policy to allow any dogs
except guide dogs into Post Office branches.

If we can be of any further assistance please do not hesitate to
contact us again. Please reply via the website www.postoffice.co.uk
as a reply sent to any other email address will not receive a
response.

If you need any further help with Post Office® products and services,
you can call 0845 722 33 44 between 8.15 am and 6 pm Monday to Friday,
and 8.30 am to 5.30 pm on Saturday. You can also access information
at www.postoffice.co.uk, the official Post Office® website.

Kind Regards

Yvonne Leadbeater

Customer Service Advisor.

Telephone: 08457 22 33 44

Textphone : 08457 22 33 55 (For the Deaf and Hard of Hearing)


As a customer of a shop/ bank/post office, I do not want a dog around my
feet. I applaud businesses for asking that they should be left outside.

On 2008-07-30, Owain wrote:

The ECHR is fundamentally speciesist.

I think that's what the "H" stands for.