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Old July 23rd 08, 02:10 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
David J
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Our local Post Office has a small 'Dogs Not Allowed' sign on it's
front door.

I can understand this where food & drink is for sale, or is being
consumed - Health & Safety rules, etc. But this is just a Post Office
with a tiled floor..

Is this just a jobsworth flaunting his power, or is there a valid law
in operation here?

David

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Old July 23rd 08, 02:15 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
Rod
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David J wrote:
Our local Post Office has a small 'Dogs Not Allowed' sign on it's
front door.

I can understand this where food & drink is for sale, or is being
consumed - Health & Safety rules, etc. But this is just a Post Office
with a tiled floor..

Is this just a jobsworth flaunting his power, or is there a valid law
in operation here?

David

It could be that they have their own dog which reacts badly to other
dogs being brought into the PO?

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Old July 23rd 08, 02:35 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
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David J typed:
Our local Post Office has a small 'Dogs Not Allowed' sign on it's
front door.

I can understand this where food & drink is for sale, or is being
consumed - Health & Safety rules, etc. But this is just a Post Office
with a tiled floor..

Is this just a jobsworth flaunting his power, or is there a valid law
in operation here?


They probably got sick of clearing up after little 'accidents' ... and also
have a care for Health and Safety and responsibility. If a dog does have an
accident and someone slips on it before it's cleared up who's to blame? Who
will pay the compensation which will almost certainly be sought?

I'd doubt there's a law against it, but it's their PO and they can make the
rules about how much trade they want to potentially turn away, I guess.

IANAL .........

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Old July 23rd 08, 02:40 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
Neil Williams
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On 23 Jul, 15:10, David J wrote:

Is this just a jobsworth flaunting his power, or is there a valid law
in operation here?


Yes, the principle that when on private property the owner may make
whatever rules he or she wishes, so long as they are not racist,
sexist etc. Not permitting dogs (which may soil the place or leave
hairs all over it, or intimidate other customers who do not like dogs)
is an entirely reasonable rule, except when it comes to guide dogs
which you tend to find are permitted in such instances.

Not "jobsworth", IOW, but a reasonable condition of entry, just as it
would equally apply to my house that you don't bring your dog in
because I don't want the smell and hairs everywhere.

Neil

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Old July 23rd 08, 03:05 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
Dave[_7_]
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Default Dogs Not Allowed

David J wrote:
Our local Post Office has a small 'Dogs Not Allowed' sign on it's
front door.

I can understand this where food & drink is for sale, or is being
consumed - Health & Safety rules, etc. But this is just a Post Office
with a tiled floor..

Is this just a jobsworth flaunting his power, or is there a valid law
in operation here?

David


There is no law preventing them from prohibiting dogs provided they
don't fall foul of any other law (discrimination laws etc).

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Old July 23rd 08, 08:55 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
mert1639
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Default Dogs Not Allowed


"Dogpoop" wrote in message
...
David J typed:
Our local Post Office has a small 'Dogs Not Allowed' sign on it's
front door.

I can understand this where food & drink is for sale, or is being
consumed - Health & Safety rules, etc. But this is just a Post Office
with a tiled floor..

Is this just a jobsworth flaunting his power, or is there a valid law
in operation here?


They probably got sick of clearing up after little 'accidents' ... and
also
have a care for Health and Safety and responsibility. If a dog does have
an
accident and someone slips on it before it's cleared up who's to blame?
Who
will pay the compensation which will almost certainly be sought?

I'd doubt there's a law against it, but it's their PO and they can make
the
rules about how much trade they want to potentially turn away, I guess.

IANAL .........

Very little trade would be lost seeing as most owners would just tie up
their animals outside. I think there are very few dog-friendly POs, except
perhaps in very remote locations (which have probably been closed now).



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Old July 23rd 08, 09:05 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
David J
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Default Dogs Not Allowed

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:05:04 +0100, Dave wrote:

David J wrote:
Our local Post Office has a small 'Dogs Not Allowed' sign on it's
front door.

I can understand this where food & drink is for sale, or is being
consumed - Health & Safety rules, etc. But this is just a Post Office
with a tiled floor..

Is this just a jobsworth flaunting his power, or is there a valid law
in operation here?

David


There is no law preventing them from prohibiting dogs provided they
don't fall foul of any other law (discrimination laws etc).



But this is not a 'private shop cum post office'.. It is a Post
Office plus sorting office owned by the Post Office. Staffed by PO
employees.

Maybe the PO have a bye-law?

David


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Old July 23rd 08, 09:10 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
mert1639
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Default Dogs Not Allowed


"David J" wrote in message
...

But this is not a 'private shop cum post office'.. It is a Post
Office plus sorting office owned by the Post Office. Staffed by PO
employees.

Maybe the PO have a bye-law?

Why would the PO need a bye-law? Just beacuse it's owned by the PO doesn't
make it any less private property.



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Old July 24th 08, 12:25 AM posted to uk.legal.moderated
David J
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Default Dogs Not Allowed

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:10:05 +0100, "mert1639"
wrote:


"David J" wrote in message
.. .

But this is not a 'private shop cum post office'.. It is a Post
Office plus sorting office owned by the Post Office. Staffed by PO
employees.

Maybe the PO have a bye-law?

Why would the PO need a bye-law? Just beacuse it's owned by the PO doesn't
make it any less private property.


So if it not corporate policy, it must be up to the individual
postmaster to make up what rules he feels like about the use of the
premises...?




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Old July 24th 08, 01:10 AM posted to uk.legal.moderated
Chris Holford[_2_]
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Default Dogs Not Allowed

In article , David J
writes
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:05:04 +0100, Dave wrote:

David J wrote:
Our local Post Office has a small 'Dogs Not Allowed' sign on it's
front door.

I can understand this where food & drink is for sale, or is being
consumed - Health & Safety rules, etc. But this is just a Post Office
with a tiled floor..

Is this just a jobsworth flaunting his power, or is there a valid law
in operation here?

David


There is no law preventing them from prohibiting dogs provided they
don't fall foul of any other law (discrimination laws etc).



But this is not a 'private shop cum post office'.. It is a Post
Office plus sorting office owned by the Post Office. Staffed by PO
employees.

Maybe the PO have a bye-law?


Maybe it is to avoid problems with the sorting office cat?

(Certainly, in the past, the GPO had official cats 'on the payroll' to
prevent mice from nibbling the mail)
--
Chris Holford

 




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