In message , at 22:50:05 on Thu, 14
Aug 2008, tim..... remarked:
People don't rush out and buy a car because they have somewhere to park it.

But if there's no-where to park it, they don't rush out and buy a
second, third or fourth car. Fewer cars means they have to plan when
they use them better, which means less traffic.
--
Roland Perry

In message , at 19:15:03 on Thu, 14 Aug
2008, The Starman remarked:
In the cul-de-sac where I live the amount of car owners has rapidly
increased and now it's dificult to find a parking place and resident car
owners are virtually prisoners in their homes as if you leave your parking
space it will not be there when you get back!
Also this complication is having a big affect on people, family and friends
visiting anyone as there is nowhere to park.
There could be double the parking space if the local council were to dig up
part of a verge and tarmac the surface. This would help tremendously.
My question is this:

What is the best way/best method to put this point across to the council in
an effort for them to take some kind of action to solve the parking problem?

It's more likely the council has a long term planning policy that tries
to discourage car usage and increase public transport etc. One on the
key measures to implement this is restricting the amount of parking
available!!
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Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 08:55:10 on Fri,
15 Aug 2008, "\"nightjar\" cpb@"
remarked:
the Council imposed parking restrictions such that one side of the
road was no parking on even numbered days and the other on odd
numbered days.

A ridiculous idea.

Everyone got to park outside their own house half the time, but it
was incredibly inconvenient having to change the cars over late
every night

Including the people away on holiday, in hospital, or otherwise not at
home? Whoever thought up such a daft scheme should be shot.

and eventually the residents had it changed to permanent no parking
on one side and they had to pay for the re-signing.

Well, the frog got boiled in the end, but what a performance!

I think it's brilliant. It's a modern day Judgement of Solomon.

In message , at 09:15:08 on
Fri, 15 Aug 2008, Liz J
. clara.net remarked:
We were sent details of a new housing build near us and when we looked at
the plans, the six flats in the build have no parking access at all but only
cycle spaces! Like that is going to work!

By selling to people who don't have a car!
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 19:15:03 on Thu, 14
Aug 2008, The Starman remarked:
In the cul-de-sac where I live the amount of car owners has rapidly
increased and now it's dificult to find a parking place and resident
car owners are virtually prisoners in their homes as if you leave
your parking space it will not be there when you get back!
Also this complication is having a big affect on people, family and
friends visiting anyone as there is nowhere to park.
There could be double the parking space if the local council were to
dig up part of a verge and tarmac the surface. This would help
tremendously. My question is this:

What is the best way/best method to put this point across to the
council in an effort for them to take some kind of action to solve
the parking problem?

It's more likely the council has a long term planning policy that
tries to discourage car usage and increase public transport etc. One
on the key measures to implement this is restricting the amount of
parking available!!

I suspect that, if the OP and all the people could get together to fund the
work, they would be best off taking direct action without telling the
council. Of course, the chances of getting everyone in the close to cough up
are virtually nil.

"GB" wrote in message
...
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 19:15:03 on Thu, 14
Aug 2008, The Starman remarked:
In the cul-de-sac where I live the amount of car owners has rapidly
increased and now it's dificult to find a parking place and resident
car owners are virtually prisoners in their homes as if you leave
your parking space it will not be there when you get back!
Also this complication is having a big affect on people, family and
friends visiting anyone as there is nowhere to park.
There could be double the parking space if the local council were to
dig up part of a verge and tarmac the surface. This would help
tremendously. My question is this:

What is the best way/best method to put this point across to the
council in an effort for them to take some kind of action to solve
the parking problem?

It's more likely the council has a long term planning policy that
tries to discourage car usage and increase public transport etc. One
on the key measures to implement this is restricting the amount of
parking available!!

I suspect that, if the OP and all the people could get together to fund
the
work, they would be best off taking direct action without telling the
council. Of course, the chances of getting everyone in the close to cough
up
are virtually nil.

Yes we would consider buying the land, and having more parking made
available to us all.
I believe the council dish out grants for this kind of thing when they don't
want to put in all the cash.
Lottery loot?

In message , at 15:05:12 on
Fri, 15 Aug 2008, GB remarked:
I suspect that, if the OP and all the people could get together to fund the
work, they would be best off taking direct action without telling the
council.

Who will eventually get the work "undone" because of lack of planning
permission.
--
Roland Perry

"Peter Parry" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:50:05 +0100, "tim....."
wrote:

"Don Aitken" wrote

The only real solution is for people to forget this notion that they
have some kind of right to park outside their houses. There is no
*right* to park on the highway. And the more parking spaces there are,
the more vehicles will appear wanting to use them. Most councils have
policies against the provision of additional on-street parking; in the
not-so-long run it only makes the problem worse.

I think that this is a fiction.

People don't rush out and buy a car because they have somewhere to park
it.

Dear old 2Jags didn't really like cars (nor do the rest of his bunch)
so they invented a document called Planning Policy Guidance 13:
Transport; commonly known as PPG13. This prevents local authorities
from authorising new housing builds with adequate parking.

Yes I know Peter, we have discussed this elsewhere.

But 2 Jags introducing this rule doesn't make a causal effect between
parking places and ownership of cars.

All it does is make houses without parking unsellable

tim

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 09:15:08 on
Fri, 15 Aug 2008, Liz J
. clara.net remarked:
We were sent details of a new housing build near us and when we looked at
the plans, the six flats in the build have no parking access at all but
only
cycle spaces! Like that is going to work!

By selling to people who don't have a car!

Even people without cars, Often:

a) expect visitors who do.
b) have to move large items into the property for which they have hired a
car/van to do so.
c) know that when they want to sell, 99% of the people who may view their
house will want a parking place and as such it will be very difficult to
sell.

tim

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 08:55:10 on Fri, 15
Aug 2008, "\"nightjar\" cpb@"
remarked:
the Council imposed parking restrictions such that one side of the road
was no parking on even numbered days and the other on odd numbered days.

A ridiculous idea.

Everyone got to park outside their own house half the time, but it was
incredibly inconvenient having to change the cars over late every night

Including the people away on holiday, in hospital, or otherwise not at
home? Whoever thought up such a daft scheme should be shot.

This was the system near where I lived in the 60's, it isn't new.

tim