In message , at 16:50:12 on Fri, 15
Aug 2008, tim..... remarked:
Everyone got to park outside their own house half the time, but it was
incredibly inconvenient having to change the cars over late every night

Including the people away on holiday, in hospital, or otherwise not at
home? Whoever thought up such a daft scheme should be shot.

This was the system near where I lived in the 60's, it isn't new.

It's still completely unworkable. Unless you treat it as housing with no
parking at all.
--
Roland Perry

In message , at 17:00:10
on Fri, 15 Aug 2008, "\"nightjar\" cpb@"
remarked:

Everyone got to park outside their own house half the time, but it was
incredibly inconvenient having to change the cars over late every night

Including the people away on holiday, in hospital, or otherwise not at
home? Whoever thought up such a daft scheme should be shot.

I can't recall when, if ever, I was last away from home overnight and my car
was not also away, even if it was only in the airport car park.

I frequently go on business trips entirely by public transport (most
likely a to London, but sometimes a bus/taxi+plane overseas). With
station/airport parking at around £10 a day it makes economic sense.

[Cue people with places they can park only 25 minutes from Heathrow for
tuppence a week - sorry not interested].

I've also spent periods of a week or more in hospital and didn't park my
car in their multi-storey for the duration. And I was in no condition to
drive for months afterwards anyway.

Even when I'm at home I only use the car on average about once a week -
so moving it daily is absurd.
--
Roland Perry

In message , at 21:35:04 on
Fri, 15 Aug 2008, Alex Heney remarked:
We have two cars, and have never had both of them in an airport car
park at the same time :-)

Myself and wife have been flying in opposite directions across the
Atlantic at the exact same time [before kids].

I forget what we had done with the cars
--
Roland Perry

In message , at 18:50:06
on Fri, 15 Aug 2008, "\"nightjar\" cpb@"
remarked:
Not if your employer provides a taxi to and from the airport so that
you don't have to drive while jet-lagged.

I am my employer and I don't like taxis.

Don't have an accident while jet-lagged, or you'll have to sue yourself
for H&S infringements
--
Roland Perry

In message , at 19:50:12 on
Fri, 15 Aug 2008, " remarked:
It's more likely the council has a long term planning policy that
tries to discourage car usage and increase public transport etc. One
on the key measures to implement this is restricting the amount of
parking available!!

If I'd have had the parking space I wouldn't have sold my lightweight
sports car (44mpg) or the 125cc motorbike before it. I'd have bought an
economical diesel (55mpg) to go with them both for lugging gear around
and kept the bike for commuting and the car for fun.

As it is I drive a warm hatch (30mpg), sit in traffic jams with the
air-conditioning on feeling guilty about destroying the environment and
cycle commute every so often as penance.

The number of single-occupant family cars on the roads would suggest
that I'm not alone in this.

I agree that this is a consequence of whatever measure (parking
restrictions or otherwise) that reduces the number of vehicles per
household. The logical conclusion is every family running the "lowest
common multiple" which is the much-hated SUV !!
--
Roland Perry

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 08:55:10 +0100, "\"nightjar\"
k wrote:

the Council
imposed parking restrictions such that one side of the road was no parking
on even numbered days and the other on odd numbered days.

That was common in city centres in the '50s. The round parking
restriction sign was split and hinged across the middle. AIUI a
policeman used to ride along the road at midnight on a horse and flip
over all the half signs to reveal the opposite aspect.

Everyone got to
park outside their own house half the time, but it was incredibly
inconvenient having to change the cars over late every night and eventually
the residents had it changed to permanent no parking on one side and they
had to pay for the re-signing.

Derek

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 17:00:10 on
Fri, 15 Aug 2008, "\"nightjar\" cpb@"
remarked:

Everyone got to park outside their own house half the time, but it was
incredibly inconvenient having to change the cars over late every night

Including the people away on holiday, in hospital, or otherwise not at
home? Whoever thought up such a daft scheme should be shot.

I can't recall when, if ever, I was last away from home overnight and my
car
was not also away, even if it was only in the airport car park.

I frequently go on business trips entirely by public transport (most
likely a to London, but sometimes a bus/taxi+plane overseas). With
station/airport parking at around £10 a day it makes economic sense.

[Cue people with places they can park only 25 minutes from Heathrow for
tuppence a week - sorry not interested].

I've also spent periods of a week or more in hospital and didn't park my
car in their multi-storey for the duration. And I was in no condition to
drive for months afterwards anyway.

Even when I'm at home I only use the car on average about once a week - so
moving it daily is absurd.

I think that was rather the point.

Colin Bignell

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 18:50:06 on
Fri, 15 Aug 2008, "\"nightjar\" cpb@"
remarked:
Not if your employer provides a taxi to and from the airport so that
you don't have to drive while jet-lagged.

I am my employer and I don't like taxis.

Don't have an accident while jet-lagged, or you'll have to sue yourself
for H&S infringements

I don't think that is much of a risk flying between Southampton and Leeds.

Colin Bignell

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 16:50:06 on Fri, 15 Aug
2008, tim..... remarked:

We were sent details of a new housing build near us and when we looked
at
the plans, the six flats in the build have no parking access at all but
only
cycle spaces! Like that is going to work!

By selling to people who don't have a car!

Even people without cars, Often:

a) expect visitors who do.

There are many places where visitor parking is difficult (a flat in
Mayfair for example), it's just one of those things.

Somewhere within walking distance of a central London underground is a
different proposition to an edge of town estate. The former is going to
have a lot of interest parking place or not, the latter is going to lose out
to the next estate that does have enough parking.


b) have to move large items into the property for which they have hired a
car/van to do so.

Almost everywhere has arrangements for such things.

They didn't at the last place I lived. 80 flats with 60 allocated spaces
all behind a gated entrance.

If you didn't have a parking place, you had to steal someone else's whilst
you unloaded and hope that you didn't get clamped.


c) know that when they want to sell, 99% of the people who may view their
house will want a parking place a

Only if they've failed to read the particulars.

nd as such it will be very difficult to
sell.

Recursive argument. The price will reflect any such perceived
disadvantage.

IME the difference in amenity value is not sufficiently reflected in the new
price decided by the developer, they simply value the parking space at a
couple of K in 200, which IMHO is nowhere near enough

tim

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the Omrud opined:
"nightjar" cpb@ .me.uk wrote:
"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 08:55:10 on
Fri, 15 Aug 2008, "\"nightjar\" cpb@"
remarked:
the Council imposed parking restrictions such that one side of the
road was no parking on even numbered days and the other on odd
numbered days. A ridiculous idea.

Everyone got to park outside their own house half the time, but it
was incredibly inconvenient having to change the cars over late
every night
Including the people away on holiday, in hospital, or otherwise not
at home? Whoever thought up such a daft scheme should be shot.

It was common, and may still be, in some parts of France to have
parking on one side of the street from 1st to 15th and on the other
side from 16th to the end of each month.

When I lived in Belgium in the 60's/70's it was the norm for residential
streets. For many years it was alternate days, then they changed it to
half-months so it required fewer movements - but was harder to remember.

If you were away, I suppose you had to get your friendly neighbour to move
your car! As far as i can recall the system was pretty well observed.

In fact, looking at my old street on Google Maps, and the neighbouring
streets, I see that all the cars are still parked on one side; the street
would not be passable with cars both sides, which must have made it
interesting at changeover time.

Chris R