""nightjar" cpb@ .me.uk" wrote in
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"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 17:00:10
on
Fri, 15 Aug 2008, "\"nightjar\" cpb@"
remarked:

Everyone got to park outside their own house half the time, but it was
incredibly inconvenient having to change the cars over late every night

Including the people away on holiday, in hospital, or otherwise not at
home? Whoever thought up such a daft scheme should be shot.

I can't recall when, if ever, I was last away from home overnight and my
car
was not also away, even if it was only in the airport car park.

I frequently go on business trips entirely by public transport (most
likely a to London, but sometimes a bus/taxi+plane overseas). With
station/airport parking at around £10 a day it makes economic sense.

[Cue people with places they can park only 25 minutes from Heathrow for
tuppence a week - sorry not interested].

I've also spent periods of a week or more in hospital and didn't park my
car in their multi-storey for the duration. And I was in no condition to
drive for months afterwards anyway.

Even when I'm at home I only use the car on average about once a week -
so
moving it daily is absurd.

I think that was rather the point.

Though the problem with hiring a car for this frequency is the hire
company's opening hours.

If you need a car for "Wednesday", it would be usual to need it from the
night before for an early start to late Wednesday Evening.

To get a hire car for this you either have to forget about the evening
before and fit around their opening at 8:00 in the morning or pay for two
days.

tim

In message , at 11:45:07 on Sat, 16
Aug 2008, tim..... remarked:

There are many places where visitor parking is difficult (a flat in
Mayfair for example), it's just one of those things.

Somewhere within walking distance of a central London underground is a
different proposition to an edge of town estate. The former is going to
have a lot of interest parking place or not, the latter is going to lose out
to the next estate that does have enough parking.

It's a whole bunch of shades of grey. I have often visited friends whose
houses/flats did not have parking available for me, and you simply have
to make allowances and park somewhere "nearby".

b) have to move large items into the property for which they have hired a
car/van to do so.

Almost everywhere has arrangements for such things.

They didn't at the last place I lived. 80 flats with 60 allocated spaces
all behind a gated entrance.

If you didn't have a parking place, you had to steal someone else's whilst
you unloaded and hope that you didn't get clamped.

If they'd clamp a removal van then I agree it's at the far distant end
of reasonable behaviour.

IME the difference in amenity value is not sufficiently reflected in the new
price decided by the developer, they simply value the parking space at a
couple of K in 200, which IMHO is nowhere near enough

And why do you think the first owner is the only one who'd ever want to
buy such a place?
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Roland Perry

In message , at 12:25:02 on Sat, 16
Aug 2008, tim..... remarked:
Even when I'm at home I only use the car on average about once a
week - so moving it daily is absurd.

I think that was rather the point.

Well, I was the one originally saying that moving a car every day was a
daft requirement.

Though the problem with hiring a car for this frequency is the hire
company's opening hours.

If you need a car for "Wednesday", it would be usual to need it from the
night before for an early start to late Wednesday Evening.

To get a hire car for this you either have to forget about the evening
before and fit around their opening at 8:00 in the morning or pay for two
days.

I agree that the "well you can always rent a car" argument is also a
gross over-simplification. Even when I literally lived across the
street[1] from a garage that did car hire, I found it quite difficult.
The main problems were not just fitting around the opening hours, but
being assured that they had any availability on the dates I wanted.

The next-nearest car hire place was about ten miles away, and I'd hate
to have built a lifestyle around assuming that small family business
stayed operating.

[1] And, although I had off street parking most of the other people in
the street didn't, and it had double yellow lines down both sides
because it was major thoroughfare. And people still bought the houses.
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Roland Perry

On 15 Aug, 20:50, "GB" wrote:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 15:05:12 on
Fri, 15 Aug 2008, GB remarked:
I suspect that, if the OP and all the people could get together to
fund the work, they would be best off taking direct action without
telling the council.

Who will eventually get the work "undone" because of lack of planning
permission.

That's the risk - if they ever notice. They don't have people coming round
to check whether every road verge is still nicely grassed over, so it's just
a question of chance.

I think the man they send out to mow the verge might notice something!

Chris

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:25:02 +0100, "tim....."
wrote:

If you need a car for "Wednesday", it would be usual to need it from the
night before for an early start to late Wednesday Evening.

To get a hire car for this you either have to forget about the evening
before and fit around their opening at 8:00 in the morning or pay for two
days.

I've joined a car-sharing scheme. The nearest car is parked about 3 mins walk
from my house. Advantages: you can book a car (at one minute's notice via the
web site) for units of 1/2 hr, starting at any time of the night or day. IMO one
of the major benefits is that you just take it when you need it and bring it
back to its parking space when you've finished with it. As I don't qualify for
residents' parking I save GBP 1.20 an hour by not having to park a hired vehicle
in the road.

Disadvantages: it's more expensive than hiring if you want it for an extended
period of time; you have to return it to the location you got it from; it may
already be booked when you want it (but I have about 5 others within reasonable
walking distance.

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Jo Lonergan

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:15:03 +0100, "The Starman"
wrote:

In the cul-de-sac where I live the amount of car owners has rapidly
increased and now it's dificult to find a parking place and resident car
owners are virtually prisoners in their homes as if you leave your parking
space it will not be there when you get back!
Also this complication is having a big affect on people, family and friends
visiting anyone as there is nowhere to park.
There could be double the parking space if the local council were to dig up
part of a verge and tarmac the surface. This would help tremendously.
My question is this:

What is the best way/best method to put this point across to the council in
an effort for them to take some kind of action to solve the parking problem?

I know to mention the words Emergency Services and No Acess and Life
Threatening Situation etc.




Once you've paved over the grass the rain water will have less places
to drain away. You'll probably be cross with the council for the
flooding that happens then.

You need to get in touch with your local councillor who'll come down
and have a look - or email them some snaps of the problem.

The fire brigade have put stickers on people's cars when they block
their access route.

If emergency services access is a genuine concern then get in touch
with the local fire brigade who'll pop round and have a look.

Do some research on porous pavements and grass pave.
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