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Parking Problem - Council Help?



 
 
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Old August 14th 08, 07:15 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
The Starman
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In the cul-de-sac where I live the amount of car owners has rapidly
increased and now it's dificult to find a parking place and resident car
owners are virtually prisoners in their homes as if you leave your parking
space it will not be there when you get back!
Also this complication is having a big affect on people, family and friends
visiting anyone as there is nowhere to park.
There could be double the parking space if the local council were to dig up
part of a verge and tarmac the surface. This would help tremendously.
My question is this:

What is the best way/best method to put this point across to the council in
an effort for them to take some kind of action to solve the parking problem?

I know to mention the words Emergency Services and No Acess and Life
Threatening Situation etc.



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Old August 14th 08, 09:45 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
Don Aitken
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:15:03 +0100, "The Starman"
wrote:

In the cul-de-sac where I live the amount of car owners has rapidly
increased and now it's dificult to find a parking place and resident car
owners are virtually prisoners in their homes as if you leave your parking
space it will not be there when you get back!
Also this complication is having a big affect on people, family and friends
visiting anyone as there is nowhere to park.
There could be double the parking space if the local council were to dig up
part of a verge and tarmac the surface. This would help tremendously.
My question is this:

What is the best way/best method to put this point across to the council in
an effort for them to take some kind of action to solve the parking problem?

I know to mention the words Emergency Services and No Acess and Life
Threatening Situation etc.

The only real solution is for people to forget this notion that they
have some kind of right to park outside their houses. There is no
*right* to park on the highway. And the more parking spaces there are,
the more vehicles will appear wanting to use them. Most councils have
policies against the provision of additional on-street parking; in the
not-so-long run it only makes the problem worse.

--
Don Aitken
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Old August 14th 08, 10:15 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
Norman Wells
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Default Parking Problem - Council Help?

Don Aitken wrote:
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:15:03 +0100, "The Starman"
wrote:

In the cul-de-sac where I live the amount of car owners has rapidly
increased and now it's dificult to find a parking place and resident
car owners are virtually prisoners in their homes as if you leave
your parking space it will not be there when you get back!
Also this complication is having a big affect on people, family and
friends visiting anyone as there is nowhere to park.
There could be double the parking space if the local council were to
dig up part of a verge and tarmac the surface. This would help
tremendously.
My question is this:

What is the best way/best method to put this point across to the
council in an effort for them to take some kind of action to solve
the parking problem?

I know to mention the words Emergency Services and No Acess and Life
Threatening Situation etc.

The only real solution is for people to forget this notion that they
have some kind of right to park outside their houses. There is no
*right* to park on the highway. And the more parking spaces there are,
the more vehicles will appear wanting to use them. Most councils have
policies against the provision of additional on-street parking; in the
not-so-long run it only makes the problem worse.


They do nevertheless have to have some regard for the votes they might get
at the next election. And they are there, most would say, to be of service
to their constituents. If the view is shared by the majority in the
cul-de-sac that parking should be increased in the way the OP wants, then he
should get that in writing from them, perhaps by signing a communal
statement, and get the local Councillor to take the matter up. It's what
he's for. It shouldn't be necessary to justify it on false grounds. The
fact that the majority just want more parking spaces should be enough.



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Old August 14th 08, 10:35 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
Alex Heney
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Default Parking Problem - Council Help?

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:15:03 +0100, "The Starman"
wrote:

In the cul-de-sac where I live the amount of car owners has rapidly
increased and now it's dificult to find a parking place and resident car
owners are virtually prisoners in their homes as if you leave your parking
space it will not be there when you get back!
Also this complication is having a big affect on people, family and friends
visiting anyone as there is nowhere to park.
There could be double the parking space if the local council were to dig up
part of a verge and tarmac the surface. This would help tremendously.
My question is this:

What is the best way/best method to put this point across to the council in
an effort for them to take some kind of action to solve the parking problem?


Get together with the other residents, and offer to pay for the work
if the council will approve it.


I know to mention the words Emergency Services and No Acess and Life
Threatening Situation etc.



Risky.

If you mention those things, and there is not really a significant
issue in that respect, then they will at best do nothing.

If there *is* an issue with such things, you may just find that all
they will do is put double yellow lines on the road to try and prevent
access being blocked.
--
Alex Heney, Global Villager
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Old August 14th 08, 10:50 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
tim.....
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Default Parking Problem - Council Help?


"Don Aitken" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:15:03 +0100, "The Starman"
wrote:

In the cul-de-sac where I live the amount of car owners has rapidly
increased and now it's dificult to find a parking place and resident car
owners are virtually prisoners in their homes as if you leave your parking
space it will not be there when you get back!
Also this complication is having a big affect on people, family and
friends
visiting anyone as there is nowhere to park.
There could be double the parking space if the local council were to dig
up
part of a verge and tarmac the surface. This would help tremendously.
My question is this:

What is the best way/best method to put this point across to the council
in
an effort for them to take some kind of action to solve the parking
problem?

I know to mention the words Emergency Services and No Acess and Life
Threatening Situation etc.

The only real solution is for people to forget this notion that they
have some kind of right to park outside their houses. There is no
*right* to park on the highway. And the more parking spaces there are,
the more vehicles will appear wanting to use them. Most councils have
policies against the provision of additional on-street parking; in the
not-so-long run it only makes the problem worse.


I think that this is a fiction.

People don't rush out and buy a car because they have somewhere to park it.

tim



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Old August 14th 08, 10:50 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
5th Harmonic
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Default Parking Problem - Council Help?

The Starman wrote:
In the cul-de-sac where I live the amount of car owners has rapidly
increased and now it's dificult to find a parking place and resident car
owners are virtually prisoners in their homes as if you leave your parking
space it will not be there when you get back!
Also this complication is having a big affect on people, family and friends
visiting anyone as there is nowhere to park.
There could be double the parking space if the local council were to dig up
part of a verge and tarmac the surface. This would help tremendously.
My question is this:

What is the best way/best method to put this point across to the council in
an effort for them to take some kind of action to solve the parking problem?

I know to mention the words Emergency Services and No Acess and Life
Threatening Situation etc.




It is important to mention the brown envelope with the back hander in as
well.

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Old August 14th 08, 11:25 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
Peter Parry
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Default Parking Problem - Council Help?

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:50:05 +0100, "tim....."
wrote:

"Don Aitken" wrote


The only real solution is for people to forget this notion that they
have some kind of right to park outside their houses. There is no
*right* to park on the highway. And the more parking spaces there are,
the more vehicles will appear wanting to use them. Most councils have
policies against the provision of additional on-street parking; in the
not-so-long run it only makes the problem worse.


I think that this is a fiction.

People don't rush out and buy a car because they have somewhere to park it.


Dear old 2Jags didn't really like cars (nor do the rest of his bunch)
so they invented a document called Planning Policy Guidance 13:
Transport; commonly known as PPG13. This prevents local authorities
from authorising new housing builds with adequate parking.

If you complain the result will be the imposition of parking
restrictions, not provision of more parking. You are supposed to use
the "frequent" (defined as twice a day) bus service from a convenient
stop not more than a mile or so walk from your home and give your car
away to save the planet (unless of course you are an MP).

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Old August 15th 08, 08:55 AM posted to uk.legal.moderated
\nightjar\[_54_]
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Default Parking Problem - Council Help?


"Alex Heney" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:15:03 +0100, "The Starman"
wrote:

In the cul-de-sac where I live the amount of car owners has rapidly
increased and now it's dificult to find a parking place and resident car
owners are virtually prisoners in their homes as if you leave your parking
space it will not be there when you get back!
Also this complication is having a big affect on people, family and
friends
visiting anyone as there is nowhere to park.
There could be double the parking space if the local council were to dig
up
part of a verge and tarmac the surface. This would help tremendously.
My question is this:

What is the best way/best method to put this point across to the council
in
an effort for them to take some kind of action to solve the parking
problem?


Get together with the other residents, and offer to pay for the work
if the council will approve it.


You beat me to it. It is the only way the work is likely to be carried out
by the Council. However, I do recall a case where someone had a parking
layby built outside his house at his own exxpense and the Council then
incorporated it into the road. Mind you, he had thought he was building a
private parking place and hadn't understood that the highway is more than
the roadway.

I know to mention the words Emergency Services and No Acess and Life
Threatening Situation etc.



Risky.

If you mention those things, and there is not really a significant
issue in that respect, then they will at best do nothing.

If there *is* an issue with such things, you may just find that all
they will do is put double yellow lines on the road to try and prevent
access being blocked.


Someone I knew lived in a road where the Fire Brigade raised concerns about
access because of parking. The Council tried to negotiate a voluntary
agreement between the residents, to get parking on one side of the road
only, which would have allowed fire engines a clear run down the other side.
As nobody wanted to give up parking outside their own house, the Council
imposed parking restrictions such that one side of the road was no parking
on even numbered days and the other on odd numbered days. Everyone got to
park outside their own house half the time, but it was incredibly
inconvenient having to change the cars over late every night and eventually
the residents had it changed to permanent no parking on one side and they
had to pay for the re-signing.

Colin Bignell



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Old August 15th 08, 09:15 AM posted to uk.legal.moderated
Liz J
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Dear old 2Jags didn't really like cars (nor do the rest of his bunch)
so they invented a document called Planning Policy Guidance 13:
Transport; commonly known as PPG13. This prevents local authorities
from authorising new housing builds with adequate parking.

If you complain the result will be the imposition of parking
restrictions, not provision of more parking. You are supposed to use
the "frequent" (defined as twice a day) bus service from a convenient
stop not more than a mile or so walk from your home and give your car
away to save the planet (unless of course you are an MP).


We were sent details of a new housing build near us and when we looked at
the plans, the six flats in the build have no parking access at all but only
cycle spaces! Like that is going to work!



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Old August 15th 08, 09:35 AM posted to uk.legal.moderated
Roland Perry
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In message , at 08:55:10 on Fri,
15 Aug 2008, "\"nightjar\" cpb@"
remarked:
the Council imposed parking restrictions such that one side of the road
was no parking on even numbered days and the other on odd numbered
days.


A ridiculous idea.

Everyone got to park outside their own house half the time, but it was
incredibly inconvenient having to change the cars over late every night


Including the people away on holiday, in hospital, or otherwise not at
home? Whoever thought up such a daft scheme should be shot.

and eventually the residents had it changed to permanent no parking on
one side and they had to pay for the re-signing.


Well, the frog got boiled in the end, but what a performance!
--
Roland Perry

 




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