News Item Fri, Aug 15th 2008

"Drivers are still enduring long queues several hours after a Fathers
4 Justice protest forced the closure of four lanes on the M25".


Thousands of folk missed flights from Heathrow & Gatwick, and arrived
late to weddings, funerals, business appointments, etc. Cost of all
this is incalculable.

Would a Class Action taken against F4J succeed in stopping such
selfish activities in the future. This is no longer a joke...

David J posted

News Item Fri, Aug 15th 2008

"Drivers are still enduring long queues several hours after a Fathers
4 Justice protest forced the closure of four lanes on the M25".

F4J didn't force the closure. The police chose to do it. They didn't
have to. I know from personal experience that one former head of the
Metropolitan Police traffic division had a deliberate policy *not* to
close roads under such circumstances. He was very well aware of his
responsibility to the travelling public.

The current head of the division is much stupider, or more probably has
a different agenda. It is very useful for the police and the government
if the public can be turned against groups like F4J. Closing the road
certainly helped that agenda.

Thousands of folk missed flights from Heathrow & Gatwick, and arrived
late to weddings, funerals, business appointments, etc. Cost of all
this is incalculable.

Would a Class Action taken against F4J succeed in stopping such
selfish activities in the future. This is no longer a joke...

Complain to the police.

--
Les
"God will save her, fear you not, be you the men you've been.
Get you the sons your fathers got and God will save the Queen."

Would a Class Action taken against F4J succeed in stopping such
selfish activities in the future. This is no longer a joke...

I'm not sure how an action in the US courts would do to anything to
prevent something in the UK.

"David J" wrote in message
...

News Item Fri, Aug 15th 2008

"Drivers are still enduring long queues several hours after a Fathers
4 Justice protest forced the closure of four lanes on the M25".


Thousands of folk missed flights from Heathrow & Gatwick, and arrived
late to weddings, funerals, business appointments, etc. Cost of all
this is incalculable.

Would a Class Action taken against F4J succeed in stopping such
selfish activities in the future. This is no longer a joke...


I would respectfully suggest that if someone actually listened to what
these blokes have to say and even better, took action to create a more level
playing field, the problem would go away.

I entirely agree with another poster that the traffic disruption was as a
result of police action and entirely avoidable.

Les.

In message , "
writes
Would a Class Action taken against F4J succeed in stopping such
selfish activities in the future. This is no longer a joke...

I'm not sure how an action in the US courts would do to anything to
prevent something in the UK.


Class Actions are not exclusive to the American courts. We have them
here too. Examples have included benzodiazapene cases, the MMR action
and some mining cases.
--
Richard Miller

Class Actions are not exclusive to the American courts. We have them
here too. Examples have included benzodiazapene cases, the MMR action
and some mining cases.

I don't know of the cases you refer to, but the only MMR action I'm
aware of was between a number of claimants and a set of drug companies.

In February Cohen, Milstein, Hausfeld & Toll were making lots of noise
about starting a class action, but admitted that they were still
lobbying to get them allowed. As recently as 5th August the Civil
Justice Council published a paper asking the Lord Chancellor to allow
class actions on the grounds that they are more efficient than a series
of individual claims.

Les. wrote:

I would respectfully suggest that if someone actually listened to
what these blokes have to say and even better, took action to create
a more level playing field, the problem would go away.

I agree - the present systemic discrimination against fathers will one day
seem as ridiculous as denying women the franchise.

Richard Miller wrote:

In message , "
writes
Would a Class Action taken against F4J succeed in stopping such
selfish activities in the future. This is no longer a joke...

I'm not sure how an action in the US courts would do to anything to
prevent something in the UK.


Class Actions are not exclusive to the American courts. We have them
here too. Examples have included benzodiazapene cases, the MMR action
and some mining cases.

And IIRC Turner and Newall (asbestosis).

On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:30:08 +0100, "Steve Walker"
wrote:

Les. wrote:

I would respectfully suggest that if someone actually listened to
what these blokes have to say and even better, took action to create
a more level playing field, the problem would go away.

I agree - the present systemic discrimination against fathers will one day
seem as ridiculous as denying women the franchise.


However the Man (stuck in traffic) on the Clapham Omnibus is hardly
likely to warm to their cause - don't you think?

David J wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:30:08 +0100, "Steve Walker"
wrote:

Les. wrote:

I would respectfully suggest that if someone actually listened to
what these blokes have to say and even better, took action to create
a more level playing field, the problem would go away.
I agree - the present systemic discrimination against fathers will one day
seem as ridiculous as denying women the franchise.

PMSL