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Car tax. Paid for but not rcvd



 
 
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Old September 8th 08, 11:35 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
Nick
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Default Car tax. Paid for but not rcvd

My wifes car tax expired at the end of August.
We went on holiday on 18 August and returned Sunday 7th September.
18 August I posted off the car tax reminder with MOT certificate, insurance
certificate, and my cheque in payment. 1st class stamp.
Done by post as I object to paying HMGOV anything more than I absolutely
have to.

On return home, no letter containing tax disc.
Cheque cleared bank 01.09.08.
Telephoned DVLA today and am told that her car is shown as being taxed.
I ask about legaility of my wife driving her car without a valid tax disc.
I'm told this is 5 days from the end of the expiry period. So she is now
driving illegally according to the law, or the bod that I (eventually) spoke
with
Then, and this really narks me, "it may have been lost in the post, you can
get a duplicate and that will cost £7, you have to complete form V20 (I
think) and then submit it to a DVLA office, with accompanying paperwork.
WhyTF should I be made to paid an extra £7 for the ineptitude of either the
PO or the, errr, PO.
The £7 is not a problem but I have done all that I can, why should I be
penalised for faults brought about by others.
I no longer wish to fund the ever increasing body of revenue sharks now
prevalent in this country.

Perhaps time to go beachcombing. Not easy but straightforward.
I think that is more than be said for this country in its current sad state.

I can't be arsed to google for it, but what is the current statistic for
persons employed (directly/indirectly) by B Gord?

My apologies for ranting.



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Old September 9th 08, 10:35 AM posted to uk.legal.moderated
Roland Perry
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Default Car tax. Paid for but not rcvd

In message , at 23:35:04 on Mon, 8
Sep 2008, Nick remarked:
My wifes car tax expired at the end of August.
We went on holiday on 18 August and returned Sunday 7th September.
18 August I posted off the car tax reminder with MOT certificate, insurance
certificate, and my cheque in payment. 1st class stamp.
Done by post as I object to paying HMGOV anything more than I absolutely
have to.

On return home, no letter containing tax disc.
Cheque cleared bank 01.09.08.
Telephoned DVLA today and am told that her car is shown as being taxed.
I ask about legaility of my wife driving her car without a valid tax disc.
I'm told this is 5 days from the end of the expiry period. So she is now
driving illegally according to the law, or the bod that I (eventually) spoke
with
Then, and this really narks me, "it may have been lost in the post, you can
get a duplicate and that will cost £7, you have to complete form V20 (I
think) and then submit it to a DVLA office, with accompanying paperwork.
WhyTF should I be made to paid an extra £7 for the ineptitude of either the
PO or the, errr, PO.


I had the same a year ago. After a few days of being bounced between the
Post Office (responsible for issuing the disk as well as mailing it to
me) and the local DVLA office, each saying it was the other's problem,
they finally got embarrassed enough to sent me a replacement FOC. Did
you order your disk through a Post Office?
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Old September 9th 08, 10:55 AM posted to uk.legal.moderated
the Omrud[_2_]
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Default Car tax. Paid for but not rcvd

Nick wrote:
My wifes car tax expired at the end of August.
We went on holiday on 18 August and returned Sunday 7th September.
18 August I posted off the car tax reminder with MOT certificate, insurance
certificate, and my cheque in payment. 1st class stamp.
Done by post as I object to paying HMGOV anything more than I absolutely
have to.


Surely the cheapest renewal method is online. No need to travel to the
post office, and no need to buy a stamp to post the cheque.

On return home, no letter containing tax disc.
Cheque cleared bank 01.09.08.
Telephoned DVLA today and am told that her car is shown as being taxed.
I ask about legaility of my wife driving her car without a valid tax disc.
I'm told this is 5 days from the end of the expiry period. So she is now
driving illegally according to the law, or the bod that I (eventually) spoke
with


I wouldn't rely on that. Since you are required to buy *and display*
the disc (in the prescribed manner), keeping your car on the road on or
after 1st September without a disc is surely an offence. It would be an
offence if the disc had simply slipped onto the floor.

Do you keep the car on the road, or in a private driveway?

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Old September 9th 08, 11:35 AM posted to uk.legal.moderated
Adrian
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Default Car tax. Paid for but not rcvd

the Omrud gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying:

My wifes car tax expired at the end of August. We went on holiday on 18
August and returned Sunday 7th September. 18 August I posted off the
car tax reminder with MOT certificate, insurance certificate, and my
cheque in payment. 1st class stamp. Done by post as I object to paying
HMGOV anything more than I absolutely have to.


Surely the cheapest renewal method is online. No need to travel to the
post office, and no need to buy a stamp to post the cheque.


There's a slight premium (a couple of quid) for either credit or debit
cards, I can't remember which. The other is free.

It doesn't involve posting off the certificates, either - which
presumably they've also lost...?

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Old September 9th 08, 11:35 AM posted to uk.legal.moderated
chrisj.doran@proemail.co.uk
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Default Car tax. Paid for but not rcvd

On 9 Sep, 00:35, "Nick" wrote:
My wifes car tax expired at the end of August.
We went on holiday on 18 August and returned Sunday 7th September.
18 August I posted off the car tax reminder with MOT certificate, insurance
certificate, and my cheque in payment. 1st class stamp.
Done by post as I object to paying HMGOV anything more than I absolutely
have to.

On return home, no letter containing tax disc.
Cheque cleared bank *01.09.08.
Telephoned DVLA today and am told that her car is shown as being taxed.
I ask about legaility of my wife driving her car without a valid tax disc..
I'm told this is 5 days from the end of the expiry period. So she is now
driving illegally according to the law, or the bod that I (eventually) spoke
with
Then, and this really narks me, "it may have been lost in the post, you can
get a duplicate and that will cost £7, you have to complete form V20 (I
think) and then submit it to a DVLA office, with accompanying paperwork.
WhyTF should I be made to paid an extra £7 for the ineptitude of either the
PO or the, errr, PO.
The £7 is not a problem but I have done all that I can, why should I be
penalised for faults brought about by others.


Pay the 7 quid and claim for a lost item from the PO. Put "lost item"
in the Search box at http://www.royalmail.com/portal/rm# and plough
through the instructions. I am assuming that the DVLA actually use the
PO and not some other courier; perhaps someone can confirm.

Chris

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Old September 9th 08, 12:30 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
Roland Perry
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Default Car tax. Paid for but not rcvd

In message , at 11:55:05 on Tue, 9
Sep 2008, Adrian remarked:
I don't think I was even aware that you could buy 'em by cheque through
the post any more - why WOULD you...?


"Late adopter" - opposite of "early adopter"?
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Old September 9th 08, 12:35 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
Roland Perry
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Default Car tax. Paid for but not rcvd

In message , at 10:55:19
on Tue, 9 Sep 2008, the Omrud remarked:
So she is now driving illegally according to the law, or the bod that
I (eventually) spoke with


I wouldn't rely on that. Since you are required to buy *and display*
the disc (in the prescribed manner), keeping your car on the road on or
after 1st September without a disc is surely an offence.


You two seem to be in fierce agreement. I am as well.
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Roland Perry

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Old September 9th 08, 12:45 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
chrisj.doran@proemail.co.uk
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Default Car tax. Paid for but not rcvd

On 9 Sep, 13:10, "Anthony R. Gold" wrote:
On Tue, *9 Sep 2008 11:35:10 +0100, wrote:
Pay the 7 quid and claim for a lost item from the PO. Put "lost item"
in the Search box athttp://www.royalmail.com/portal/rm#and plough
through the instructions. I am assuming that the DVLA actually use the
PO and not some other courier; perhaps someone can confirm.


Unfortunately for the OP, this alleged mail loss happened under the DVLA's
postage stamp so he will have no standing to make a claim for compensation.

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Old September 9th 08, 01:00 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
Roland Perry
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Default Car tax. Paid for but not rcvd

In message , at 11:35:05 on Tue, 9
Sep 2008, Adrian remarked:
It doesn't involve posting off the certificates, either - which
presumably they've also lost...?


About 5 years ago I attempted to renew the tax for two cars by post. To
avoid confusion as two separate letters. One was returned asking for
more money (it had gone up in a recent budget and the form was out of
date), the other was never seen again - lost somewhere, could be in the
post there, the post back, or even inside the issuing office (PO, to
whom the DVLA have outsourced it).

I had to get replacement insurance and MOT (the latter costing money)
and never did get any postal compensation.

In message , at 12:10:09 on
Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Anthony R. Gold remarked:
Unfortunately for the OP, this alleged mail loss happened under the DVLA's
postage stamp so he will have no standing to make a claim for compensation.


In my situation above, it's not clear which direction the loss was.
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Roland Perry

 




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