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Would you call this hit and run?



 
 
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Old September 21st 08, 03:00 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
mert1639
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"Joe Lee" invalid@noaddress wrote in message
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"Toom Tabard" wrote in message
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On 18 Sep, 19:40, "Simon" wrote:
Hello,

Today my wife gave a lift to a colleague to the bus stop, our 3 month
old
baby was in the car chair, (in the back seat).

as she was driving down the road she noticed a small school bus on the
side
of the road, she saw no kids, (it is a village road and it was stopped
on
the side of the road, not at a bus stop or anything).

As she overtook the bus a kid ran out from the front of the bus and hit
the
driver door, (broke a side mirror).
The wife stopped in front of the bus, the colleague got out of the car
to
help, the wife stayed in the car with the baby, a bit shocked).


Are we missing something here? If, from the way you describe it, the
bus is on the left of the road with the kid getting out and running
round the front of the bus and across the road as your wife 'overtook'
ie passed the offside of the stationary bus, how would the child hit
the *driver* door and mirror? Or is that not what happened?


I am also puzzled by the fact that the child apparently sustained a broken
leg in the accident but according to the colleague the child was OK.

It's not clear whether the child was lying in the road following the
collision, all we are told is that "As the kid lives across the road,
(probably the reason why the bus was stopped there), someone ran out of
the house and took the child directly inside."

Which wuld be difficult with a broken leg, I'd have thought. Surely the kid
would be in such pain that an ambulance would be required?



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Old September 22nd 08, 08:25 AM posted to uk.legal.moderated
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mert1639 wrote:
"Joe Lee" invalid@noaddress wrote in message
...
"Toom Tabard" wrote in message
...
On 18 Sep, 19:40, "Simon" wrote:
Hello,

Today my wife gave a lift to a colleague to the bus stop, our 3 month
old
baby was in the car chair, (in the back seat).

as she was driving down the road she noticed a small school bus on the
side
of the road, she saw no kids, (it is a village road and it was stopped
on
the side of the road, not at a bus stop or anything).

As she overtook the bus a kid ran out from the front of the bus and hit
the
driver door, (broke a side mirror).
The wife stopped in front of the bus, the colleague got out of the car
to
help, the wife stayed in the car with the baby, a bit shocked).

Are we missing something here? If, from the way you describe it, the
bus is on the left of the road with the kid getting out and running
round the front of the bus and across the road as your wife 'overtook'
ie passed the offside of the stationary bus, how would the child hit
the *driver* door and mirror? Or is that not what happened?

I am also puzzled by the fact that the child apparently sustained a broken
leg in the accident but according to the colleague the child was OK.

It's not clear whether the child was lying in the road following the
collision, all we are told is that "As the kid lives across the road,
(probably the reason why the bus was stopped there), someone ran out of
the house and took the child directly inside."

Which wuld be difficult with a broken leg, I'd have thought. Surely the kid
would be in such pain that an ambulance would be required?


Personally I find the broken leg element totally implausible. The bus
driver would surely have known not to attempt to move the child.

This sets my 'try-on' alarm bells ringing. Why on earth would the
mother start banging on about hit and run?

I don't think your wife has anything to worry about. Potentially a due
care and attention but that seems unlikely with the other witnesses present.

She has told the insurance company I take it.

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Old September 22nd 08, 05:35 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
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Which wuld be difficult with a broken leg, I'd have thought. Surely the
kid would be in such pain that an ambulance would be required?


Personally I find the broken leg element totally implausible. The bus
driver would surely have known not to attempt to move the child.


Well, we never actually saw the child's broken leg, but realistically, who
would make such a story?
The care taker in the house took the child away, (to the house), and much
later he was taken to hospital.


This sets my 'try-on' alarm bells ringing. Why on earth would the mother
start banging on about hit and run?


Not sure, I guess the is worried/upset


I don't think your wife has anything to worry about. Potentially a due
care and attention but that seems unlikely with the other witnesses
present.

She has told the insurance company I take it.


Yes, and the police, (all well within 24 hours).
We asked both the police and the insurance company if we needed to do
anything else and they said no.
My wife wanted to bring the child a toy or something but the insurance
company advised us against it for the time been.

We have not heard anything more from anybody since the police report.

Simon


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Old September 22nd 08, 07:00 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
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"Simon" wrote in message
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Which wuld be difficult with a broken leg, I'd have thought. Surely the
kid would be in such pain that an ambulance would be required?


Personally I find the broken leg element totally implausible. The bus
driver would surely have known not to attempt to move the child.


Well, we never actually saw the child's broken leg, but realistically, who
would make such a story?
The care taker in the house took the child away, (to the house), and much
later he was taken to hospital.

It could be an undisplaced fracture, I guess.



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Old September 23rd 08, 03:05 AM posted to uk.legal.moderated
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On 22 Sep, 20:00, "mert1639" wrote:
"Simon" wrote in message

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Which wuld be difficult with a broken leg, I'd have thought. *Surely the
kid would be in such pain that an ambulance would be required?


Personally I find the broken leg element totally implausible. *The bus
driver would surely have known not to attempt to move the child.


Well, we never actually saw the child's broken leg, but realistically, who
would make such a story?
The care taker in the house took the child away, (to the house), and much
later he was taken to hospital.


It could be an undisplaced fracture, I guess.


Maybe a "greenstick fracture": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenstick_fracture
I remember a youngster falling over on a ramble and doing this to an
arm. She wasn't complaining at the time and it wasn't until the family
were back home that it became apparent she should be taken to A&E.

Chris

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Old September 23rd 08, 09:30 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
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On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 03:05:05 +0100, wrote:

On 22 Sep, 20:00, "mert1639" wrote:
"Simon" wrote in message

...

Which wuld be difficult with a broken leg, I'd have thought. *Surely the
kid would be in such pain that an ambulance would be required?


Personally I find the broken leg element totally implausible. *The bus
driver would surely have known not to attempt to move the child.


Well, we never actually saw the child's broken leg, but realistically, who
would make such a story?
The care taker in the house took the child away, (to the house), and much
later he was taken to hospital.


It could be an undisplaced fracture, I guess.


Maybe a "greenstick fracture":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenstick_fracture
I remember a youngster falling over on a ramble and doing this to an
arm. She wasn't complaining at the time and it wasn't until the family
were back home that it became apparent she should be taken to A&E.


It is surprising what can happen that way.

We actually had each of our daughters break a bone when young
(completely separate occasions), and not have it diagnosed until one
or more days later.

The elder daughter broke her arm falling over in the car park as we
left Alton Towers, and although she was complaining a bit about it
hurting on the way home, she wasn't in screaming pain, so it was only
when she still complained the following morning hat we took her to
casualty. She was about 7 or 8 years old at the time.

A couple of years later, her younger sister chipped a bone in her
ankle when she slipped on a climbing frame on the way to visit my
mother for New Year, but was walking around on it for three days (away
from home) before going to get it checked when we got home.
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Old September 24th 08, 11:05 AM posted to uk.legal.moderated
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On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 18:35:05 +0100, Palindrome
wrote:

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 17:10:08
on Sat, 20 Sep 2008, Palindrome remarked:
All fuss and bother and for what..


It would have been in the public interest for the motorcyclist to be at
least required to sit a re-test, so excessive was his speed and lack of
lane discipline, before even not considering the poor weather conditions
or the proximity to a pedestrian crossing in an urban area.


He presumably didn't do those things on his previous test, so there
doesn't seem to be any rational reason why he would do so on his next.

Personally, I can't think of a much more effective way of reinforcing
the need to drive a motor bike defensively than smacking them in the
head with a car..Not really practical in the classroom though

I'm not arguing what *should* be done, btw - I'm just trying to give an
explanation of why things are done as they are.

I'd much rather *all* the people that use the roads in a dangerous
manner were removed off it - and not via a big, slow moving vehicle with
lots of flowers in the back.. But, hey, the police choose to put their
resources into those that drive in a dangerous manner *and* don't have
insurance, etc. With far more clowns on the road than the courts could
ever deal with, dealing with them, rather than the mimes, seems sensible
to me.


If he hit you at a speed great enough to push your car 10 feet I am
very surprised he is still alive.

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Old September 24th 08, 09:10 PM posted to uk.legal.moderated
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In message , at 11:05:09 on
Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Mark remarked:
If he hit you at a speed great enough to push your car 10 feet I am
very surprised he is still alive.


It was a small car and a huge bike. And he did leave the scene in the
back of an ambulance. istr he dismounted a few dozen feet before the
(now riderless) bike crashed into the back of my car.
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Old September 26th 08, 09:25 AM posted to uk.legal.moderated
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On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:10:09 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message , at 11:05:09 on
Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Mark remarked:
If he hit you at a speed great enough to push your car 10 feet I am
very surprised he is still alive.


It was a small car and a huge bike. And he did leave the scene in the
back of an ambulance. istr he dismounted a few dozen feet before the
(now riderless) bike crashed into the back of my car.


Was it this?
http://jokes.stevenwongblog.com/cool-stuff/the-world-largest-motorbike/

;-)

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